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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-28 04:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #5987 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
There is nothing wrong. QPR is a thing. Liking different things and dynamics in a shipping is a thing. You do you

what is QPR?

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never seen that and all searching got me was Queens Park Rangers

Re: what is QPR?

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Queerplatonic relationship.

I’m sure others can define it better, but in the simplest terms it’s a non-sexual, non-romantic relationship that has levels of intimacy and commitment usually not associated with platonic relationships.

Perhaps two people who live together, share a bank account, etc, but are not romantically or sexually involved.

thanks for answering me!

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah okay, that seems really obvious now. That basically just sounds like an aromantic asexual relationship? Not really what I think OP was saying since they specify romance and seems to have no problem with the sex part, just not wanting to read about it. I could be misreading OP though, that happens a lot with me!

Re: thanks for answering me!

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
... why would there be anything wrong with you? There are lots of pairings that I ship but don't want to actually imagine having sex for whatever reason. Shipping doesn't mean "I want to read about these characters getting down and dirty," it means "I want these characters to be in a relationship." Sometimes you do want to read explicit fics of them doing the nasty. Sometimes you don't, you just want to read soft fluffy G/PG-rated fic of them being cute and domestic together.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
WELCOME TO THE AROACE FIC EXPERIENCE LMAOOOOO! (disclaimer - NOT universal for all aroaces, but is a pretty common experience from what I know)
this feeling of shipping characters HARD but having no interest in porn and just wanting 1000+ fics of them getting together or purely interacting in any (non-sexual) way? yeah, been there, done that, doing it currently with some of my fav ships lol.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm aroace and my shipping impulses are filthy, but I will share a hearty cheers with the shippers who ship it hard but sans porn. There's no wrong way to ship!

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought "aro" meant no interest or feelings of romance? OP specifies they like the pairing in a romantic way.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - A lot of aro/ace people enjoy fictional romance and/or smut. I love fictional romance and smut, particularly when it's between my OTP. My OTP fucking is hot; my OTP being in love is awesome; I just don't want any of it to involve me at all.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for answering! I knew that about ace people but the only aro people I've met have taken the "no interest" all the way and preferred their pairings to be platonic.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not the person you're replying to, so I'm not sure if it applies to them but you can not be interested in romance personally but still be interested in reading about it.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for being kind in the reply! The only aro people I know take the no interest thing to apply to all aspects, they hate that shipping is such a big thing in fandom and don't like romance (or smut) at all so I was kind of extrapolating and generalizing from them. Should have known better!

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Guess it varies. Aside from not connecting with romance, myself, I usually find romance between other people about as boring as watching paint dry. But a lot of people who are capable of writing interesting character dynamics and vivid sex scenes seem to think it would be indecent to write those things without including some sort of courtship, or spilling ink on the premise that the characters love each other. I just skim the parts that leave me cold and slow down when it gets interesting again.

But then, I'm aromantic and allosexual, whereas most of the people writing about being aro are also ace.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny, I'm ace but I don't think it necessarily reflects in my shipping practices. Like sometimes yeah, I scroll through the smut to get to the plot or whatever and sometimes I just read alllll the smut. It has to do with specific pairings or fandom vibes for me, not what I think of as a reflection of my own identity. Though I have also been informed that most people like to project into fic and that's why they read it, and I definitely do not do that so that could come into play.

Either way, I love reading about the different ways people do fandom.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I never actually tracked it but I'm pretty sure my intense "read all the smut. Now." phase correlates with some phase of my period.

I go through a day or two of reading the kinkiest, filthiest things I can find and will skip anything that's not just straight-up porn. But after that it's basically just PG rated fluff or skimming through the sex scenes to get back to plot, no interest in anything sexy whatsoever.

yup

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Mine is roughly the week before my period. It's actually the surest sign I know it's coming (irregular periods are so much fun!) and it took me forever to notice the correlation.

Re: yup

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not ace, but to leave you guys with an additional data point, I've noticed the intensity of my sexuality tends to climb before my periods. It's pretty much always noticeable, but it gets harder to control.

I saw a study one time that claimed that women were attracted to men with face shapes that indicated higher testosterone around the start of the menstrual cycle (compared to what they rated as appealingly attractive the rest of the time), and thought "oh, is that what gives guy's faces that sleek look and the sharp definition around their cheekbones and chins?"

I was also kind of amused at how closely it matched what I had in my head as sort of the stereotypical villain look - the sort of face that older literature would compare to a hungry wolf.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Though I have also been informed that most people like to project into fic and that's why they read it

I'm not ace at all and this has always just been incredibly weird and creepy to me. If I'm reading fic about two characters, it's because I want to read about those characters, not because I want to pretend to be one of them.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
As an aro/ace person who's very into fictional smut and romance (particularly when one of my ships is involved), I've always found it really neat, and also comforting, that even among allo people this is so totally variable. Like, I know allo people who find it baffling that some people don't project themselves into fanfic, because they assume it's standard. And I know other allo people who seem to have about as much of a visceral squick at the idea as I do.

I have a guy friend who literally doesn't understand what I get from smut or romance if I'm not imagining myself being involved. Like, it does not compute for him. I find that so wild.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Heh I am aroace. And do like to read smut and romance. Sometimes libido wins and it's more interested in some smut (ironically my libido is highest ON a period. Ok let's be bleedy and horny, why not).
But I do project myself into fanfic sometimes. I like to pretend to be a person that feels romantic or sexual feelings occasionally. And I do it through fictional characters. Not in "I want to change this about myself" but "I am interested in how it feels, but I am also interested to know how colors sound" way. But I am aegosexual if we are microlabeling.
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[personal profile] randomdrops 2023-05-28 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
eh, I have ships I want to read all the filthy kink for, ships I want to read only cute romance and adventures, and then ships where I want it all. There's nothing wrong with you at all!

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I often run into this when it just feels tonally off from the typical canon stories to have the characters explicitly going there, but it’s also inconsistent because I will sometimes want smut about Disney princesses? It can also just be one of the characters having a personality that makes it hard to imagine what they’d do in the bedroom.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I like smut just fine for some pairings and have no interest for others. I think that's pretty normal as long as you're not going "oh het pairings should get it on but queer pairings should just sweetly hold hands" or something.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
as long as you're not going "oh het pairings should get it on but queer pairings should just sweetly hold hands" or something.

I think the reason for that matters. I have a friend who is ace and gay and doesn't want queer pairings to have sex because he identifies with them and finds it comforting to think they could possibly be like him/wants them to be like him, while he doesn't care either way whether het pairings have sex or not because he already feels like they're so different than him that it doesn't matter. (At least this is how he explained it to me when he got accused of being homophobic for not wanting his queer ship to have sex.)

On the other hand, I'm aroace and don't want any pairings to have sex, regardless of gender.

But of course if a straight person is all about het pairings having sex but not queer ones, then, yeah, I'd find it questionable.