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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-02 02:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #6022 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6022 ⌋

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[personal profile] sabotabby 2023-07-02 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
A Sad Oligarchs secret!!!!

And yes, for some reason I have been following several assassin stories, including these ones, and it's never as cool as in any media ever.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Can you imagine Ra's Al Ghul pulling that shit? It's staggering.

Maybe there are "badass" assassins out there but instead of super ninjas and expert snipers they have mastered such amazing tactics as: drug overdoses, auto-erotic asphyxiation, and sticking to one knife when framing a single person for a murder/suicide.

I mean yeah, real crime is boring and dumb but you'd THINK an ex-KGB guy with all the resources of a massive nation could kill billionaires with a little bit more ~pizazz~.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2023-07-03 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair I think Putin's hits have pizazz sometimes. Part of it is like "clearly I did it, and I'm so unafraid of getting caught that I will kill someone in a dumb and obvious way that makes it clear that it was me." I don't know why I feel the need to be fair to Putin. He sucks.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That guy in the UK who got poisoned had a ~little pizazz~ but I have no respect for the "What I'm saying is so obviously a lie and yet you have to believe it because I'm powerful" thing. It's Titan vs. Megamind.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2023-07-04 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Also if they are going to kill people in obvious ways they could be funnier about it.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Assassins irl are all crazy, same as soldiers. Human brains aren't made for murdering others. So they're either very low IQ or druggies. Or brainwashed fanatics which is same as stupid I guess.
The game looks like your typical pixel indie 2 hours gameplay pseudo deep baggy game. I've bought so many of those on Steam and have dropped 99% of them.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
*buggy not baggy

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's a podcast.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
The game looks like your typical pixel indie 2 hours gameplay pseudo deep buggy game. I've bought so many of those on Steam and have dropped 99% of them.

Why would you not look up the work before making this assumption? And being judgmental about it when you don’t know anything about it, and are operating under the incorrect assumption that it’s a game?

The image from the podcast used in the secret does have pixelated graphics, so I can understand assuming it might be a game at first glance, but I don’t get not checking if you’re going to judge it in the thread. And it’s just surface judgments next to the assumptions.

I might just be coming at this from a personal bias though, because I look everything up. Even things that I’m pretty sure about. I think it could be that I’m averse to the thought of being seen as ignorant of the topics I choose to talk with people about, so I look it up as much as I can first. I’m sure I’ve still come off as ignorant in other ways, but I try my best to be prepared at least.

I’m not trying to be rude, I’m just genuinely curious and a tad confused. And I’m having trouble phrasing my comment and the questions in it well. So if I’m coming off as condescending, I’m genuinely sorry.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt
i hope someone got a laugh out of my mistake.

The day I google facts and proofread on fs is the day I'll stop coming here. Too much like work.

You didn't come across as rude or anything like that.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The day I google facts and proofread on fs is the day I'll stop coming here. Too much like work.

You know, I can definitely understand that.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Chronicling the suspicious deaths of the ultra-rich ... and making it a crime story? In a day and age where practically every first world country except Russia is full of people daydreaming about murdering the obscenely rich? That's an interesting narrative choice, right there.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Making the victim someone you have no sympathy is a known way to lighten up crime fiction.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
OP here. I want to like Tru-Crime but I kind of hate how it's be come the WHITE WOMEN FEAR FOR YOUR LIVES genre. This is a neat intersection of high profile people (so we aren't dragging private randos into the public eye), world politics, criminal investigating, and nosy lookie-looing.

Plus, no guilt! (Ok yeah I feel bad about the family that got wiped out some of those kids might have been actual children I don't remember the ages, but the Oil CEO who had a shamen inject him with frog poison for a hangover? Oh yeah my dude get rekt.)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-04 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Oh. Yeah, now I understand where you're coming from better.

And to be clear, I wasn't saying anything against the podcast. This was just the first I was hearing of its existence, so I kind of went "subject. Presentation format?" and was genuinely puzzled.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
The sad part is that it takes no real skill to kill someone. All you need is a weapon and to be in the right place at the right time. Seriously, there have been people killed by two-year-olds, and it's not because the two-year-old is a genius master assassin. Often in that scenario, the reason is much more prosaic: the parent had a gun they didn't do a good enough job of securing. Hijinks ensue.

But that's not really that satisfying from a dramatic standpoint.

In fact, while I agree with the Warren Commission (Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone), I understand why conspiracy theories about the Kennedy Assassination persists. It seems inconceivable that the handsome well-educated scion of a wealthy family and the currently most powerful man in the world, gets taken out by a snot-nosed loser C-Student wasteoid who thought he was so much more than what he was. But when it comes to presidential assassinations, Lee Harvey Oswald is the rule, not the exception.

With the possible exception of John Wilkes Booth, who had achieved national renown as an actor at the time he assassinated Lincoln, all our presidential assassins were losers, complete and total losers who failed at everything in life except for assassinating the president, unfortunately.

They were probably helped along by the fact that it took until McKinley before people were like, "Uh, how 'bout we have some kind of security to protect the president, so that ever wingnut with a gun doesn't have a reasonable shot at taking out the president?" There's a reason there's only been one successful assassination since the Secret Service started protecting the president.

I could go through and list the various assassins, and their loser-dom, but this comment is hella long as is. Suffice to say, I do feel that Booth does qualify as a loser, because apparently, he acted really put-upon by everyone calling his attack on Lincoln cowardly, which you can understand. All he did was shoot an unarmed man in the back of the head, while he was busy watching some silly comedy. I don't know why anyone could call that cowardly.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure the skill of being an assassin isn't the actual murder - it's the planning and execution of the murder in such a way that they get away with it.

I also think we have some definitional confusion here. You have listed assassins in the sense that they tried or succeeded in murdering a public figure for a cause. But that is a different category of assassins from career assassins working for a secret service or for organised crime, which is the more common portrayal in comic books.