[ SECRET POST #6108 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6108 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Shadow Gambit: The Cursed Crew]



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[MCU, Star Wars, Kyou Kara Maou, Blakes 7, many others]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Why? It's been proven that things like meditation, exercise, getting outdoors, etc. ARE hugely helpful to people with mental health issues. There's no reason to put someone on medication right up front if making some lifestyle adjustments would work just as well.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP

Meditation can worsen anxiety, depression, and dissociation.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

OK, I didn't realize I was in the presence of someone who knew better than my own lived experience as well as many studies and meta studies on the subject. Wow. Much impress.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, you were talking about your OWN experience? Maybe you should've led with that instead of generalizing.

It also helps to produce actual sources.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Check yourself, my dude. I said "can" and I generalized because THAT'S WHAT THE STUDIES SHOW. Which you would know, if you ever bothered to look at them. I'm not your teacher. Go educate yourself.

I shouldn't have to share my own diagnosis to get you to listen. You're exhibiting very anti behavior. "Oh, you're an abuse survivor? Well, in that case, YOU can write that. Maybe you should have told all of us in your author's notes." Fuck off.

[(Anonymous)]

To be more precise, a certain type of meditation can do that (the one where you focus on your thoughts and external sensations by yourself). Guided Meditations can eliminate this issue sometimes. I recommend exploring different styles of meditation (for instance, Ho'oponopono) to see if one could help. It's not a replacement for traditional treatment of course, but a supplement. And if it's not for you, it's not for you, obviously.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP

It was stuff like this, but prayer instead of meditation, that led to my mental illness not being diagnosed for years. I got told to just pray and the fears and depression would just go away.

It is important for people to listen to their doctors. If their psychiatrist or therapist suggests meditation first, that is one thing. People on the internet telling people to go there leads to people ignoring their doctors or not seeing doctors at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Meditation isn't the cure for violent schizophrenics.

[(Anonymous)]

They didn't say it was the cure for violent schizophrenics.

[(Anonymous)]

My point was it isn't meant to be a cure-all for all mental problems, especially severe ones like that; another anon made the same point below.

[(Anonymous)]

Nobody said it was a cure-all for all mental problems.

The man that OP is talking about simply suggested, in a very short clip that was a part of a compilation of other doctor "hot takes" (I put that in quotes), that meditation should be tried first. Not that it should be the only "medicine." Or that you should continue it if it is bad for you. Or that you are a bad person if it doesn't work for you.

This is why it's a secret. It didn't allow for any context at all.

[(Anonymous)]

What do you mean by "violent schizophrenics"? Is it the violence that cannot be addressed with meditation, or the diagnosis of schizophrenia? Meditation is one tool of many (along with medications and other therapies) that can be used to treat mental illness, which works for some and does not for others, and yes, is sometimes very effective for patients with "extreme" mental health concerns and behaviors.

[(Anonymous)]

Please read my comment above yours.

[(Anonymous)]

I have met many schizophrenics, and none of them were violent. The mental illness there is the schizophrenia, there's no good evidence schizophrenic people are violent at any greater rate than the rest of the population except in (perceived) self-defense.

(And yes, meditation and similar methods won't cure delusions but they can help people deal with their symptoms better, including reducing the need to resort to violence, which is often a necessary first step before they can be compliant with medicalized treatment.)

[(Anonymous)]

That's nice to haven't met any. I have. Am related to one, actually. It sucks.

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2251840-mindfulness-and-meditation-can-worsen-depression-and-anxiety/

Yes, it can cause harm. It's not wrong to try it but it needs to be with a competent and experienced practitioner. And "straight to medication" is not the only other alternative. There is a fair amount of evidence that medication in mild-moderate or situational depression is not particularly helpful, either. But meditation is a specific practice not a "lifestyle change".