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[ SECRET POST #6244 ]

⌈ Secret Post #6244 ⌋

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John. He was the highest ranking military on base.

But the mission wasn't a military one.

sa Just thinking about John leading the expedition... Well, him and Weir were on a more even footing compared to later seasons with Woolsey (sp?).

DA I remember there were quite a few fic of getting rid of Weir and having John (or John and Rodney) lead Atlantis. It was always funny to me because they were the same basic plot but some people painted Weir as awful and John as a good leader, and others had John fucking the whole thing up (sometimes humor, sometimes darkfic).

haha that is funny. He'd just slack imo and tell everyone do whatever they usually do.

.... It's funded by the US AirForce staffed out of NORAD and you think the mission wasn't a military one???

no?? It's literally not a military mission??

It literally is? Like, who chose Weir to be in charge? An Air Force General. Who chose Weir's replacement? An Air Force General. Who eventually became in charge of the mission? An Air Force Colonel. Who does everyone on the mission ultimately report to? The SGC, which is run by the Air Force. What about that says "civilian mission"?

The Atlantis expedition is an international contingent of Tau'ri that explores Pegasus, a galaxy beyond the Milky Way. Its first mission was to discover the lost Ancient City-ship of Atlantis. The impetus for the expedition's creation was the discovery of an Ancient outpost in Antarctica.

An international committee, originally called the Atlantis Committee was established, creating the first truly international body for the management of Earth's off world affairs.

Though the members are from numerous nations, it is unclear how many nations are aware of the Stargate Program as it is possible they are simply employed by other governments as Doctor McKay is employees by the United States Air Force despite being a Canadian Citizen.

Lieutenant Colonel John Sheppard who also serves as the Expedition's military commander.

Atlantis has always had a clear chain of command, with one member of the expedition being in charge. Even though Atlantis is not part of the military, orders from the commander were generally expected to be followed within reason.

Doctor Elizabeth Weir was the first leader of the Atlantis expedition and the first human to set foot onto Atlantis since it was abandoned by the Ancients. Her background as a diplomat and her having negotiated many difficult treaties in hostile areas successfully. Despite her more than capable management of Atlantis both during its initial days and once they were able to establish communication with Earth, she was disliked by many of the military officers who felt that a civilian was not fit to command such a mission.

John Sheppard temporarily assumed command of Atlantis after the apparent death of Doctor Elizabeth Weir up until Colonel Samantha Carter's arrival at Atlantis as Weir's replacement.

Though he never actually assumed command of the city, Carson Beckett, in his position of chief medical officer, had the authority to remove and even overrule the leaders orders if he deemed there to be a medical reason.

Tau'ri means humans.

a copy and paste from a wiki. how unhelpful.

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I'm sorry, I didn't know you were just trolling. I won't bother next time. I hate you, have a bad day.

First of all, we're a bunch of people arguing about the mission charter for Atlantis. We know what Tau'ri means, so step off.

Second, this contributes nothing to the point that the whole mission is funded by the US military and the reporting structure is to the US military. All it does is provide the in-universe explanation, which is what sucks in the first place. It adds nothing to the conversation. It's useless and you need to learn how to actual make an argument rather than cutting and pasting something irrelevant.

Have a nice day.

Was he even a colonel by that point? I don't think John had any sort of qualifications of leading a large settlement like that. Plus, didn't the expedition include a lot of civilians as well? Forcing civilians (non-US civilians as well!) to follow the command of an unqualified soldier of the US air force feels like an even worse option.

He was a Major. And it wouldn't matter what his rank was, so long as he was the highest ranking officer on base. The mission charter should have had a chain of command should they find themselves in a hostile situation.

It just points to shit writing to keep Weir in charge when she didn't actually do anything. If she's supposed to be there as a diplomat, she should have been on first contact with the Athosians. If she was supposed to be in charge, she should have ceded command even if only temporarily to the highest military officer once they were in a combat situation. Both of those things happened in the first episode and her character was completely useless.

I don't really think Weir had qualifications for leading a large settlement either, did she? I mean, she was very briefly in charge at the SGC. But, um, Air Force Generals Hammond, O'Neill, and Landry were all SGC commanders and in charge of both military and civilians. Honestly though, Atlantis was very skimpy on the past details of Weir and Sheppard.

But for real, I think a US Navy aircraft carrier commander would have been ideal for being put in charge and not just because a lot of the military was US Marines.

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