[ SECRET POST #6348 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6348 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Someone will call you homophobic for this secret and say they're allowed to "headcanon" a character who has canonically been attracted to men and women as gay, because that's what headcanon means now, not "fill in the blanks canon left open" but "make up whatever I want even if canon says different."

[(Anonymous)]

Headcanon has always meant the second one. What are you on?

[(Anonymous)]

That's... that's what headcanon has always meant. 'A self-contained version of canon that exists in one's head, regardless of its accuracy to the version of canon that exists on the screen'.

Maybe people kept their headcanons more adjacent to canon back in the day, but actual canon-compliance has never been a requisite for the "make up things about characters" side of fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I agree, headcannon =/= canon, people can do whatever they want. But let's be honest, if you HC a gay character as bi/straight/anything else, people flip their shit in a way they never do if the character is bi HC as gay.

[(Anonymous)]

What? No it hasn't, not in any fandom I've ever been in.

[(Anonymous)]

DA Not true! Headcanon used to mean "something that has no appeared on screen but does not contradict any canon events". You could also make things up all you liked, but a headcanon meant specifically something that was canon-compliant but not canon.

[(Anonymous)]

(Different) DA

Not in any fandom I can remember being a part of, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

That was my understanding of it too. Either builds off canon or at least fits in without contradicting anything else.

You can certainly come up with events that contradict with canon, but it stops being headcanon and is just a fantasy. Headcanons are based on the original story, while fantasies deny original events in favor of a fan's or fic author's preferred story.

[(Anonymous)]

There are times where it's OK to headcanon a character who has canonically been attracted to both men and women as gay, or as bisexual.

Expressing attraction on screen / on the page to both women and men does not necessarily make a character canonically bisexual. There can be characters who express attraction to both men and women on screen / on the page who are, nevertheless, not bisexual. Expressing attraction to both men and women on screen is not dispositive for determining whether a character is canonically bisexual.

It's possible for someone to have expressed attraction to both men and women in their lives, and still not be bisexual; it's open to the individual person how they define their own identity. For a fictional character who doesn't explicitly say anything definitive about their own identity, and where there's no explicit Word of God statement about their identity, it's often going to be the case that there is a lot of room for different valid interpretations and headcanons of how that character identifies.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly, I eat meat all of the time, but that doesn't make me any less of a vegetarian.

[(Anonymous)]

>Expressing attraction on screen / on the page to both women and men does not necessarily make a character canonically bisexual. There can be characters who express attraction to both men and women on screen / on the page who are, nevertheless, not bisexual.
>It's possible for someone to have expressed attraction to both men and women in their lives, and still not be bisexual

Go back to Tumblr. This makes zero sense.

[(Anonymous)]

+a billion

[(Anonymous)]

what I'm tired of is writers bringing in the dumb stereotype that all bisexuals are A. extremely promiscuous and B. have no personality other than screwing everybody in sight.

[(Anonymous)]

Me with BG3. They're all bi! Idk if the common usage of 'gay guy' or 'lesbian' includes bi folks but it had better the way its used round these parts.

[(Anonymous)]

Eeehhh, I think it's a bit tricky with games where the characters are playersexual. Not counting the characters who obviously express an attraction to opposite sex NPCs as well, you are, in fact, free to headcanon a romanceable character as whatever sexuality you choose in YOUR game. That doesn't mean you can dictate their sexualities in other people's games though. (Though if we're being pedantic, I'd say they're all pansexual, no bi but anyways.)

[(Anonymous)]

They make comments about the attractive of each other and also other npcs. They're bi. Or pan, if you prefer.

[nanslice]

I totally get what you're saying and I wish bi characters weren't referred to as gay or lesbian; on the other hand, I have no interest in most m/f relationships so chances are I'm gonna focus on their same-sex relationships.

[beed]

thissssssssssss

[(Anonymous)]

What's it to you if other people headcanon a character as gay? It doesn't change the canon itself, so no one is taking anything away from you. The closet is a thing, and gay people irl often have or have had relationships with people if the opposite sex. A person doesn't have to be gold star to still be gay.

Honestly, you are coming across as being rather controlling, and that's always obnoxious.

[(Anonymous)]

So why is it okay to headcanon a character who shows interest in both sexes in canon as being gay, but headcanoning a character who only shows interest in the same sex in canon as being bisexual is bad? After all, that doesn't change the canon either.

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

I never said it was.

[(Anonymous)]

My beef is when fans who headcanon a character as bi insist that everyone else must do so too, or else they're being biphobic. Which seems to be the real gist of the secret.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd much prefer that people write characters whichever way makes them happy, and extend that same courtesy to others.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. Unfortunately what you and I prefer is not a common view nowadays.