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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-31 06:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #6356 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6356 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is he the new "cool to hate on" person? I mean he's not great, but he's been not great for years and years, why is he suddenly everywhere? Is there some scandal reveal that I missed?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
From my reply below: He snitched on all his drug buddies when he got caught with cocaine; he made a deal where he got off pretty easy in comparison, and then later in life took a very hard-line, conservative stance on drug crime. The old "I got mine, fuck you, Jack" attitude. He's a huge douche.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
DA but like, all of that happened decades ago

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(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT but that happened years ago. None of this is news. Why are people suddenly bringing him up? It's no secret he's been a douche the whole time.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
I still don't see what is wrong.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah this has me kinda puzzled tbh. He’s exactly the same guy he was 30 years ago but online fandom seems to have just discovered him.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
He's been popping up everywhere on reddit. And with basically the same repeated lines the other anon was saying. It's so bizarre.

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(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
He's become more vocally political.

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(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
He's a misogynist.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
And?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, pretty much.

Oh, don't forget he snitched on all his drug buddies when he got caught with cocaine; he made a deal where he got off pretty easy in comparison, and then later in life took a very hard-line, conservative stance on drug crime. The old "I got mine, fuck you, Jack" attitude. He's a huge douche.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care.

I don't care about any entertainer turning out to be human rather than some perfect paragon. I don't understand why people keep being surprised and upset that actors can be assholes. Stop putting them on pedestals! They don't even actually do anything special; they entertain you for money. They're basically whores, and it's somehow shocking that they're not virtuous?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. You just said a lot of stuff about yourself there...

(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you suggesting I put actors on pedestals and am shocked when they inevitably fall down?

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(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Some of your comment is pretty oof.

But the reason people care is simply because they do not want to fund, support, or even passively endorse someone with views that include hurting or oppressing others.

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(Anonymous) 2024-05-31 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with some of this, like when a celeb of some kind turns out to be an asshole or just really out of touch and people are surprised I'm so boggled at how devastated some people get. It's one thing if it's illegal, and horribly so like sexual assault or pedo shit, but just being kind of a rude person? Like is that it? I'm not shocked and I don't care.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
First of all, there's a hell of a lot of worse things than being a whore.

And second, it matters a hell of a lot what a person's done. And it doesn't mean you can't enjoy their work but it often does impact it. I can still watch and enjoy Chinatown but I like it less knowing what I do about Roman Polanski. And I can't really enjoy Woody Allen movies anymore.

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(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
You don't have to put someone on a pedestal to be offended by something they said or did. You know that, right?

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Except that it's entirely possible to be disgusted by a person's actions without having put them on a pedestal first, or indeed, without having a positive opinion of them at all. Weird that you're shifting the blame back on the people who found objectionable behavior to be objectionable, as if that's way worse than the people who are behaving badly in the first place.

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(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
DA

*grins* I'm kinda more amused when the thing people are accusing him of setting a bad example over is drug-war hypocrisy as opposed to the usual sins. But I think your point is valid.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not so much surprise, but a general annoyance that yet again here's another terrible person who has a platform to spew their dumb thoughts and beliefs so people talk about someone/something undeserving of our time and attention.

If I'm forced to have to listen to Tim Allen spew his ignorant, entitled BS, then I feel OK bitching about a fucking famous idiot being a fucking loser.

Not that I do every time a famous person's thoughts hit the zeitgeist, but when I do, I don't feel a need to explain to others why I'm bitching about a fucking loser ass famous person.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Tim Allen's a C-List celebrity at best and the bulk of his jackassery is old enough to run for Congress at this point. Not that you can't make secrets about old, obscure things, but as far as hot takes go, "Tim Allen is kind of shitty" is right up there with "Helena Bonham Carter would have been in fewer Tim Burton movies if they hadn't been dating."

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahahahahahahaha
Thank you for the laugh

(Anonymous) 2024-06-03 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Ok I cackled reading this. Thanks for that anon.