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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-08-21 05:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #6438 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6438 ⌋

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[Takehito Koyasu (voice actor)]



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[sailor moon, ouran high-school club]



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(Anonymous) 2024-08-21 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The only way I can get behind it is if they acknowledge how crazy it is, and even then it's really hit and (mostly) miss.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-21 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I've grown more cynical of it myself, but I could see it if the meeting were preceded by a courtship or even a close friendship online. Yes, I know that changes things, but it would technically still be at first sight.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-21 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't believe in it at all in real life but I can find it fun in fiction depending on how it's done, most of the time it's not a 'true love in 5 mins' thing, it's two characters being attracted to each other and then falling for each other over time, which is fine and for me perfectly enjoyable.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-21 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
My favorite was love at first sight followed immediately by anger, like: "Really?? HIM?!?!"

(Anonymous) 2024-08-21 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It depends on the thing, and how it's handled-- like, if two people are *interested* in each other at first sight but they GET a satisfying slow burn, I can see how they'd maybe romanticize it to themselves and say that kind of thing, when really they took their time learning each other and falling in love. They'd magnify that initial interest as 'love at first sight' because it sounds so fairy tale, but it isn't necessarily ACCURATE, and that's very human.

I've got one OTP where one of them would be falling in love *almost* at first sight, but the character's whole thing is that he cold reads people, and the rapid assessment he makes during that first meeting is of someone he could love. And like, it's very key for me that he doesn't just declare himself in love based on his initial read-- he wants to get closer based on that, and he has to show that HE'S someone who is worth spending time with, without being overbearing or entitled.

On the other hand, I've got a HUGE NOTP where the characters have a 'love at first sight' that is absolutely NAUSEATING to me! It undercuts EVERY interesting or worthwhile thing about the love interest being introduced-- if the deuteragonist falls in love with her at first sight, it doesn't MATTER that she's smart, or that they have some of the same interests/values, it literally doesn't matter, nothing about her matters! Like, it still would have been a NOTP without that, because I think being in love with her makes him worse, I ship him with the friend he abandons because romantic love is apparently the most important thing, dontcha know, and their chemistry is awkward at best. But the fact that he doesn't care about any of the things that make her a person when he 'falls in love' means *I* don't care about them-- why should I? Their relationship actively makes me hate her, not because she 'gets in the way' of my OTP (I'm an old pro at non-canon ships, and wrt this OTP specifically, the other character's love interest I don't feel the same way about at all), but because the love at first sight trope just renders everything about her unimportant, and we don't even have any kind of chemistry to back it up.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-21 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"Interested at first sight" is a good way of putting it, and unfortunately a lot of people mistake that for "love at first sight" and complain about it. If the characters lay eyes on each other and think the other is attractive, that's not love, and it's a pretty normal thing that happens in real life. But I've seen a lot of people incorrectly shelve something calling it "love at first sight" or "instalove" (which I assume is a Booktok word) when it's really just that, interest or attraction.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah-- like, part of what I do love about my 'love at first sight' OTP is that while the canon never actually presents it as a romance, they DO make it very clear that the moment these two meet, one of them finds the other INCREDIBLY interesting *as a person*, like he's immediately just trying to find out what's under the hood with this guy and he's obviously DELIGHTED by everything he finds, and the fact that this is presented outside of a romantic context I think helps. I can ship it because they're not trying to tell me love at first sight is real, but they ARE saying it's possible for there to be a spark between two people that would compel them to rapidly develop a friendship, and it doesn't take long for them to genuinely like each other on a deeper level.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-21 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
My real life did a variation on "at first sight" -- about a decade of online platonic acquaintance leading towards friendship, and then a meet-cute in person and I was in way, way, way over my head.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-21 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I usually agree, it often feels lazy. Like, I don't need to show their love I just need to tell you it exists.

But also my favorite ship right now (Amberly Vail/Ciaphus Cain) started with a thunderbolt of lust, eyes meeting across a crowd, the whole nine. Only for them to light up with attraction and TOTALLY LIE TO EACH OTHER ABOUT EVERYTHING! I deeply love them, they are very fun. So, I am shamed. It can be done well.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-08-21 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven’t seen love at first sight in a while. I think enemies to lovers is on an upswing right now.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
If you call the weaksauce shit Booktok is shilling "enemies to lovers," sure. Has kind of the same problem, though: it's instant-attraction-at-first-sight, just where they're annoyed about it first.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have any recs for good solid enemies to lovers books or media? It's my favorite trope and I love a good take!

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Spinning Silver has some SOLID enemies to lovers for (although it's more enemies-to-complicated-allies-to-the-book-ends-with-we'll-give-this-a-shot, rather than spending time at the actual lovers stage lmao)
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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-08-22 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like it in real world set stuff. I don't necessarily always mind it in a magical sense, though I do prefer to see a relationship develop over time.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I do kinda think the trope can be tonally suited for some stories. I'm thinking about fantasy that's specifically tonally evoking myths and fairy tales (not to be confused with the kind of fantasy that's borrowing a specific fairy tale or myth but being aggressively 21st-century about it).
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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-08-22 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. And also, sometimes, what starts as instant love develops into something more and comes from more than just attraction. Like, with Beren and Luthien in Tolkien. Beren is super traumatized and only seen horror and then he gets into this hidden place, and she's the first thing he sees. And for her, she's been over protected and only seen beauty. And she sees this hurt, injured man and her healing instincts kick in.

So yes, they fell in love at a look in one sense. But in another sense, it wasn't that at all. And then they grow closer as time goes on. So it makes sense, at least to me.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Ditto, OP! Although I can surely get lust at first sight lol. It's stupid to mistake the two, though.

And some people do not feel lust at first sight and need a while to feel attraction for someone. I love stories that investigate that kind of relationship as well.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Love at first sight van absolutely happen. It happened to me. The first time my dog's breeder posted photos if the day old little potatoes, i looked at the one red puppy and thought, That us the prettiest puppy in the world and I hope I can have him. By the time he was six weeks old k ew I would die

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
...if I didn't end up with him. He's still perfect.

Oh, people? Yeah, I got nothing.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
I always kind of took this trope as hyperbole (unless it was a universe with some sort of magic or extrasensory something going on where you could know some stuff about a person without talking to them) and it was actually attraction at first sight based on looks or infatuation at first sight based on other things observed in that first meeting and that it then quickly grew into love.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
I've kind of come to not like it very much as well.

I totally get being attracted upon first meeting, but the ways Person A and Person B build their relationship into romance needs to be executed in such a way that when the confession happens it's convincing. You can't just have instant chemistry and so you confess that it was love at first sight.

And perhaps the whole "I knew I loved you the moment I met you" line is really reductive so I don't buy it/don't like it. There has to be more to a good romance than instant chemistry/attraction.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-08-22 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with it if it's to justify absolutely insane decision-making, like that's better than nothing.