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In defense of kid you, they probably weren't as bad when you were 12. Sometimes people grow in shitty ways.

Who are these guys? "Weird" is googleproof so I could use another proper noun please.

Not OP

Hanson.

No shit? I never would have recognized them!

thank you!

-Reverse google image search and wikipedia later-

Having a gross, fashie private pintrest and getting anti-lockdown is so fucking tame. Jesus I thought someone was abusing fans or killing animals. This is like a 4 out of 10 on the richter scale.

I fully understand why you don't want to be a fan anymore, and how it taints your memories. Give yourself some grace to feel your feelings.

nayrt

tbf to OP, I think abusing animals or fans would be far behind 'yikes'. the description is pretty apt lol

Re: Hanson

(Anonymous) - 2024-08-23 00:14 (UTC) - Expand

I did the reverse image search and then Hanson Yikes and arrived at
https://www.reddit.com/r/postHanson/comments/gzp5t0/hansongate_timeline_what_happened/

which, thank goodness it wasn't worse but still Yuck. I wish them a very nice slide into obscurity and historical footnote in late 90s/early 2000s culture.

Are you calling it "fashie" because cutesifying it means "only slightly fascist; only fascist adjacent" or is it actually fascist and you just felt like making fascism sound cute?

Re: Hanson

(Anonymous) - 2024-08-23 10:41 (UTC) - Expand

i thought this was lostprophets

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(Anonymous) - 2024-08-23 18:27 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Hanson

(Anonymous) - 2024-08-23 19:18 (UTC) - Expand

I get it but also think you need to give yourself some grace. There’s no changing that their music helped you and got you through very difficult times. That’s a good thing! And you’ve grown since then and embraced morals that transcend your early media exposure.

Well, that was a disappointing deep dive. :\

DAMN! I didn't know any of this until I read this threads (and the link provided.) I loved Hanson as a preteen, they were my favorite band. Now that I read all this? Dang, I'm shaking my head in disappointment.

I get you, OP. But like others say, allow your younger self grace. I think it's fine to acknowledge how they helped you as you were growing up, especially if it made you into the person you are, while also acknowledging disappointment for how you feel about them now.

When a piece of art or body of work speaks to you, and helps you, you can't beat yourself up when the creator(s) turn out to be horrid-- that's not the fault of your current self, let alone your preteen self! All you can do is remind yourself you're not responsible for their shit and carry on.

It's up to you and how you feel whether you can hold onto what was once meaningful to you while not supporting their future endeavors, or if it feels so tainted that you just need to kind of put it aside for a while-- maybe in the future you'll be able to come back to it and enjoy that thing on its own merits, maybe not.

I've been through similar stuff-- for me it was The Smiths that made me feel seen and validated and able to explore my identity at that age, only for Morrissey to be a racist twat. For a while I didn't want to go back and listen to songs that had really pulled me through some rough years. Eventually I was able to go back to the music I already had and just say 'look, I wouldn't want to support this person further because of shit he's said and ways he's behaved, but I didn't know that when I was a depressed gay kid in a small town, and the feelings that I had when I listened to this, those were all real and valid, and when I re-interrogate the songs I love, I don't find anything gross in THEM, and they still have the power to speak to me'.

BUT-- I've also had the other experience (though not with music specifically), of a creator being so horrible that not only can I not support their future work, when I go back and look at the things I already had, I see them in a new light, I see flaws I didn't notice or tried to shrug off when I was younger and I realize they were always part of a pattern that's only gotten worse. And not only did it make it impossible to enjoy the thing, but any fanworks relating to it I can't take any joy in. So... sometimes, the love does just die and that's okay, too-- it still isn't the fault of your younger self for finding something that spoke to you and loving it! The meaning it had for you and the part it played in you becoming yourself isn't tainted just because the creators are assholes!

BUT-- I've also had the other experience (though not with music specifically), of a creator being so horrible that not only can I not support their future work, when I go back and look at the things I already had, I see them in a new light, I see flaws I didn't notice or tried to shrug off when I was younger and I realize they were always part of a pattern that's only gotten worse.

That happened to me with Dave Sim. I still remember a panel or two fondly from Cerebus (mostly the ones with Lord Julius) but eventually they not only didn't spark joy but in fact sparked the opposite of joy, so out the volumes went to free up a couple linear feet of shelf space for something else.

The only way I can tolerate reading stuff by Sim & Gerhard is if I buy their books for charity. Otherwise, forgeddaboutit.

Capeesh?

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(Anonymous) - 2024-08-24 01:19 (UTC) - Expand

Kid you had no way of knowing that Hanson was going to grow up to be icky, and they probably weren't icky when they were lids who made the music that spoke to you. I get not being a fan anymore, but you don't have to feel bad about the fact their music was important to you back then.

I'm disappointed myself to learn this about them.

I've got through my 16 (and it was pretty bad) thanks to Marilyn Manson...
Learning about people is just sad *sigh*

Yeah, that music was seriously important to teenage me through some very rough times.

Really sucks to know about the person behind it. But I think I still have a way of appreciating that emotional connection to the songs.

The Post-Hanson days were rough for me. They were my favorite band for most of my teen years, and I've seen them 5 times. Super bummed Zac and Isaac turned out this way. Taylor is sort of noncommittal about everything, so I'm not sure what his beliefs are.

I've been there with celebrities I really adored and later found out were shitty. It's really painful to know, I hope you can process your feelings OP.

i'm sorry they disappointed you OP. i will say that it helps me to a) keep talented and/or famous people human and b) avoid disappointment if i think of my reaction to someone's art as mine. they don't own it and aren't actually necessarily involved in my interpretation of it, and therefore it can't be tainted by them. this is hard to do with some art, but i don't think you have to validate creators to validate your feelings, experiences, and the good things art gives you.

it took a while to realize who this was and yeah :(

Echoing the don't feel bad vibes, OP.

I have an interest in music. Huge, actually. Try hard to surround yourself with the music that still keeps you happy.

P. S.: I've been there before. Hang in there, it'll get better.

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