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⌈ Secret Post #6463 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Stop comparing your job to slavery. You are being paid, you are free to leave, you are not a slave. I think it's incredibly insensitive and dumb and invalidates whatever argument for fair wages you might have.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, you can leave, with the threat of homelessness...

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

I am rolling my eyes so hard they are about to pop out of my head.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Hope you're employed to be able to pay the medical bills....

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, that's just privilege projecting from you.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

This! ^
No one can really leave and change their situation if they don't have enough money and support! Sounds like a retort from a wealthy person!

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, sounds like excuses. I was making 7.55/hr until just a couple years ago (no family to help either) and I still didn't think of myself as some helpless slave to the system.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Yikes. Tell me you were born and raised middle class without telling me you were born and raised middle class.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's giving them too much credit, unless they're a boomer/older Gen X.

I'm guessing it's a troll, or some idiot who either comes from a rich household or has found a way to exist while someone else pays their bills. In any case, they are seriously out of touch with reality.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Who are you talking to?

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Probably some meme makers cluttering Instagram

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

In the US, sure you can leave your job, if you've got enough money to pay your bills without employment. You can also kiss your health care coverage goodbye, but that's easy as long as you're in good health and don't have any accidents or have an ongoing medical condition that requires medication. That includes any kids you might have. And if your field is in high demand, why you can just get a better job without having to relocate.

So yeah, quitting your job is easy peasey lemon squeezy!

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, your health insurance being tied to your job is fucking disgusting.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't have to be, though? I haven't had health insurance tied to a job for years now; I just buy it on the marketplace and that way I never have to worry about quitting or being laid off. I learned my lesson after I got stuck in a job far longer than I really should have been there because I needed the health insurance. Never again.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

I'm unconvinced, anon. There's aguably a more direct parallel between wage labor and Corvee labor (part-time slavery), but that's hairsplitting.

Also, unless you happen to be part of the idle rich, yourself, I'm unclear on why your life would be better if people would stop saying this. Are they embarassing you with their bluntness? Are they expecting you to do their work as well because they hate their jobs?

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

I don’t care how much of an asshole your manager is. He can’t breed you to someone in accounting and then sell the kids to ensure he hits his quarterly target.

Maybe look into indentured servitude or feudalism if you need analogies for your quest for wage equity and work-life balance.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Human breeding is mostly a hallmark of places where mixed-sex, forced work coincides with farm work ... and by that logic, men are arguably "less enslaved" than women, simply because they can't get pregnant.

People are going to keep calling the false choice between starvation and employment slavery because this underscores their moral right to fight their own oppression. And I still don't see why you should feel like that is in any way bad for you.

The bits you're pointing at here and downthread to go "but it's not REALLY slavery ..." are far from universal. A lot of slaves aren't bred. Some slaves aren't beaten, and lot of non-slaves have been. Where it was more expedient to incentivize slaves with wages, money was mixed in. And any history of 'public slavery' would lay to rest the notion that slaves have to have a single master in order to be slaves. Perhaps you can set your definitions in such a way that it would include most slavery and exclude most wage labor, but again, why would you?

There've been slave systems where a slave who earned enough money to resort to the courts could get themselves transferred to a different master, but that seems like a pretty perverse and miserable distinction to draw for what supposedly makes a person "free."

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's a sign of how far removed people are from the past. Most people aren't beaten at their jobs. And jobs tend to offer paths of advancement, meaning you can eventually make a higher wage or transfer to a more profitable field altogether. Unlike slaves.

There have always been low wage jobs. People couldn't easily stop working those, either. But there was still a difference between low wage work and actual slavery.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

You're only looking at one part of the picture.

Skyrocketing housing prices and health insurance being tied to your job are other parts of the picture. Of course you can just quit, just like that... as long as you have a nest egg or a benefactor. Or if you don't mind being homeless (which is considered a crime in many places now, by the way, so you might get sent to jail, which affects your chances of getting a good job), or getting sick/dying.

The current set up is designed for subjugation of anyone who's not rich. Keep you so focused on surviving that you can't think of advancement or thriving. That's what they mean by slavery. Of course those we define as actual slaves in history books had it worse in many ways. But you're kidding yourself if you don't believe modern forms of slavery exist in 2024.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

And? Those systems have been discussed in papers and books without conflating it to slavery. There's no reason to co-opt the word now. The realities are still very far removed from each other.

There is modern slavery; just look at prostitution.

More than ever, people ARE quitting their jobs, getting new ones, advancing, doing temp or gig work, and obtaining new skills. Because they have that opportunity. Slaves do not have this freedom.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

They also usually don't get lynched if they want to leave their jobs. But sure, having no insurance is practically the same thing as getting murdered for quitting.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

You quit your job without being rich - you become homeless - homelessness is criminalized now, so you have a chance of going to jail - you now have a record - you can't get another job because of your record - you get arrested more - eventually prison - where they force you to work... which is slavery...

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

Go just a few generations into the past and you'll run straight into a time when people literally said, "there has always been slavery. No society has existed without it. Quit fighting and accept it already."

Is that moral? I think people should use whatever means they can to fight for the best life they can have. It's more fashionable for the university-educated to go on about "neo-feudalism" as opposed to slavery, but I don't see that lifting one finger in the direction of increasing the standard of living or creating a world now without low-wage jobs. Whereas, people connecting their oppression with past oppression does that.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

I wish this was true. I hate being broke.

Re: Vent thread

[(Anonymous)]

I've gotta hand it to you. It's a decent trolling. There is a chance with all troll posts that you are just isn't bright one of course.