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⌈ Secret Post #6640 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Progressives are going to die out.

Conservatives have children, and try to teach them their values. Progressives think having children is bad and oppressive, and when they do have them, they try their best not to impose upon them. What's more, they increasingly view conservative people as permanently tainted, and shy away from the task of actual political persuasion.

This means that the progressive point of view will increasingly become somewhat niche, and it's already starting to happen.

[(Anonymous)]

I think there will be a huge backlash to Trumpism, particularly if he succeeds in cutting safety nets and the economy tanks. He's already working hard on tanking the economy.

But realistically, I think neoliberalism with safety nets is what will prevail.

[(Anonymous)]

There will be a backlash to him, but Trump is not really conservative, he's an opportunistic vulture without any true guiding ideology. When he falls, he will not bring conservatism down with him. On the contrary, I think it will inspire conservatives to "go back to their roots."

[(Anonymous)]

As a liberal, I'd really appreciate conservatives going back to their roots. At least those roots are understandable. Today's politics are ridiculous.

[(Anonymous)]

I am tired of having two right wings and the feeling that we are flying in circles. But instead of flying, we're just spiraling toward the ground.

[(Anonymous)]

Which senpai are you hoping notices you tonight?

[(Anonymous)]

What

[(Anonymous)]

It's a variation of a classic meme.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

[(Anonymous)]

This would only be true if all kids grew up to have the same values as their parents

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think they will die out, but their natural cowardice means they will all clump in a few cities and/or states, and that means they will automatically forfeit elections and keep America red and Great just because they are not present in enough numbers in enough states. They have self gerrymandered their own loss.

[thewakokid]

2 points you're neglecting:

1. Everything is cyclical. Eventually conservatism will become the mainstream again and rebelling against it will be cool again and then those rebels will grow up to be woke scolds, and use their influence to make everything lame and lefty.

2. Lefties don't have children, but they DO become teachers so they can poison and subvert and warp other peoples children.

Edit: You're neglecting the long view, But you're right in the short term conservatism is on the rise, but that's just the nature of the cycle. The wheel never stops turning, and everyone has to spend half the time on the wheel, and half their time under it.

Personally, I'm glad the wheel is turning away from lefty extremism, but I'm not looking forward to the inevitable righty extremism. For the moment, tho, I'm riding the wheel, and I'm learning to just enjoy my time on the top of it. Eat the wild strawberries, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

I hope all of Trump's shit hits you right here it hurts and you end up further left and ashamed of who you've been. Wild strawberries may be the only food you can get soon. All your hens are coming home to roost, and you'll be here screaming about it eventually.

[thewakokid]

I know this reply is just you going through the motions for the form of the thing, that you probably dont feel anything for me anymore, but if you're willing to work to save our relationship, to keep the spark alive, I'll try too.

Anyway, I've BEEN a lefty. I was a default lefty for years, and I AM ashamed. I was a horrible person, I hated so passionately, so freely, and without rest. I was capable of knowing cruelty and inhumanity that literally sickens me to this day. And all with the clear conscience of someone who knew the people I hated deserved it because they were worse.

Could be I'm not a better person today, likey people don't change and I'm just the same shithead I was in my youth. I'm sure you KNOW I am. But I'll tell you this: I haven't felt real hatred at anyone in years. Nearly decades. I've been angry, I've been angry, sure, sometimes for a second, occasionally a couple of hours if its been particularly bad and personal. But I just dont have it in me to spend days hating people I dont know. I think because instead of being trapped in the sunk cost of needing to prove my hate was righteous and thus needing to force it to double down... Now I just let myself be with the calmness and security's of someone who knows they act in accordance with their conscience.

All of that to ask: Honestly, when was the last time you went a whole day without feeling hate? Righteous or not, fair or not, just a day without even a moments pure personal rage and that destructive vindictive urge and the consuming wish you could just physically or metaphysically unmake a person?

Lie to me if you want to save face, but think on it a little.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Hate isn't the problem. It's indifference.

[thewakokid]

I don't think that's a problem for me. I have things I care for, things I don't care for, and things I think should / should not be. I don't think of myself as indifferent by nature, but to a certain point kinda have been trying to internalise a more Marcus Aurelius kind of attitude:

"You always own the option of having no opinion. There is never any need to get worked up or to trouble your soul about things you can't control. These things are not asking to be judged by you. Leave them alone."

And

"You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength."

I CARE about things, but I don't need to be controlled by the things I care about. I still care about injustices, and I still prefer that they be remedied. But I understand a little better these days how injustices happen, and it's NEVER because I didn't hate someone enough.

But you're right, hate is not inherently a problem, it's appropriate to hate bad things. Just like it's appropriate to drink alcohol at a celebration. But have you ever looked around and noticed how many drunkards we have?

[(Anonymous)]

Are you new here? Many of us in FS were raised to be conservative. It didn’t stick.

[(Anonymous)]

lmao, this

I saw the disgusting self-righteousness, selfishness, emotional immaturity, cruelty, control, superiority, rampant judgment and hypocrisy on full display, with expectations that I somehow be perfect* and not call out anyone on their bullshit. I said fuck that.

*keep in mind, this standard was dependent on conservatives' mood and I also had to be a mind reader

[(Anonymous)]

>Conservatives have children, and try to teach them their values. Progressives think having children is bad and oppressive, and when they do have them, they try their best not to impose upon them.

That's not always true. Progressivism is just as much of a spectrum as conservatism. Just like how there are conservatives who are okay with LGBT or pro-choice for the same reason they're pro-gun and are childfree, there are progressives who support the family model and want to have children. My mother was very progressive and so are her siblings. I'm not a fan of painting either side with a broad brush like this. Even then, plenty of people who were raised conservative aren't anymore, and vice versa with people with liberal parents.

[(Anonymous)]

DA- This gives me hope.

[philstar22]

This is true. Also progressivism in general doesn't hate the idea of having kids, it wants people to have the choice. If people want to have kids, yay. If people don't want to have kids, also yay. What is bad is forcing kids on people who don't want them and acting like the only right way to live is the traditional family model with a dad and a mom and kids.

You are wrong in so many ways

[(Anonymous)]

But as someone who works with children, the biggest wrong is the idea that "progressives" are not having children. Like it is wild that you even think that.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think so.

These are the following reasons some progressives might not be having children:
a) Obvious one: they're a heterosexual couple and infertile, and so therefore they would either be adopting (which can be difficult) or will decide it's okay to not start a family with children.
b) Financial situation. Not that having kids is "bad" or "oppressive" but they can't afford to have kids on their budget. Hits couples even harder in high cost of living areas. Maybe, ideally, they'll have 1 kid. This is becoming more common these days with wild inflation.
c) Gay people and other LGBT couples that cannot biologically have kids. Some trans people can't have kids with their partner, many gay couples don't have compatible anatomy for pregnancy. Either way, biologically having kids will be exceedingly difficult without medical intervention, and adopting kids will be exceedingly hard with conservative Christians' stranglehold on the adoption industry in America (for those that are Americans).
d) Choice to remain single and/or childless. More straight (and bisexual) women are deciding to forgo getting pregnant, whether that means getting tubes tied or deciding to not be with men. Some women are deciding to be single entirely for the rest of their lives. Which, considering the "your body, my choice," might be a matter of personal safety for some women in particular.

These are not really "it's bad and oppressive" to have a family. Many would be overjoyed to be able to have a family, or to feel safe while having a family. Furthermore, a lot of far right peers I'd known came from liberal or left-of-center backgrounds. Being a liberal, progressive, or leftist couple does not mean you will have kids with the same politics.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm progressive and I chose not to have children because I have the self-awareness to realize that I wouldn't make a good parent. I don't have the patience needed to raise children, I can't stand being around them for more than an hour at a time max, and the sound of a baby crying makes me want to throw myself out a window. And not only that, but if I were to have biological kids, there would be a high probability of me passing on several genetic issues that run in my family.

There's absolutely zero good reasons for me to have kids and every reason NOT to. It has nothing to do with thinking it's "bad" or "oppressive" to have kids and everything to do with it not being a good idea for me OR for the potential kids. The only people who should be having kids are the ones who want them with 100% of their heart and soul, because all kids deserve parents who want them and will love them.

[(Anonymous)]

I was raised Conservative.

I'm now a filthy trans lefty gay lmao