[ SECRET POST #6665 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6665 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 43 secrets from Secret Submission Post #952.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

07. https://i.imgur.com/SObTbSa.png

[feotakahari]

This is what I meant when I said I want a truce between woke and anti-woke gamers. I want us to join against devs who think they’re entitled to our money for making bad games that vaguely appeal to our politics.

[paperghost]

+1
I'm tired of this culture war but I think this is the one thing anyone can agree on.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly! I would expand this to movie studios, musicians, writers, comic creators, and other creators in general. No one is entitled to my money for entertainment if said entertainment isn't good.

[thewakokid]

Sure, I can get behind teaming up against the devs. Or more likely the publishers. But what would a Truce look like? I'd stop shitting on games that race swapped a character or made their female characters look... unappealing, if they stop shitting on games with a majority white cast or sexualised female characters?

You think either side would go for that?

[(Anonymous)]

But from what you're saying, you do NOT, in fact, love it. So you're basically lying to yourself AND those POC and queer publishers just to...what, feel morally superior? Not hurt their feelings even though they don't actually care about your enjoyment of their game?
Huh.

Also, POC and queer developers are not immune to being racist or sexist/queerphobic about cultures or queer subgroups they are not a part of, just fyi. Their colour of skin, cultural background or sexuality/gender identity doesn't give them a carte blanche.

[tabaqui]

Um...you don't, actually? I mean, if the game appealed to begin with, but was a let down when actually played, you don't owe anyone a glowing review or lies about it.

And if the game *didn't* appeal, you sure don't owe anyone your money to buy something you don't want to buy. Unless this is a family member or something, in which case i get that there can be some pressure, but still....
You DO NOT actually owe anyone anything in terms of supporting a game or book or movie or whatever that doesn't appeal and isn't good.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not about to tell anyone how or where to spend their money, but the way you're spending it doesn't seem to be making you happy.

Since this is all about appearances though, consider: once the dust settles and everyone realizes the game itself is broken and bad, won't you and circle look even more foolish for having lied to yourselves and stubbornly insisted the emperor has clothes?

[(Anonymous)]

I supported a creator (gonna be vague because I don't want to be IDed) who was aPOCLGTBQ+ partly because the content seem good but in large part because I wanted them to get a chance. The content was...okay. Then the creator turns out to be a vicious racist against a particular group which would have been bad enough for me to drop them, but the cherry on top was that it was the group I personally belong to.

I'm done supporting anything based mainly on the background of any creative involved as opposed to the content of their creation.

[(Anonymous)]

Has it occurred to you that if you are spending money you can't afford on something you don't enjoy, yoiu've gotten in a little too deep into fandom discourse and politics? Because what you are doing sounds batshit to me.

[(Anonymous)]

I don’t think you have to do any of that, OP, but I can kinda see why you would. I’m not into gaming, but I collect dolls and there’s a push in the community to buy dolls of color and accounts that only have white dolls or a few dolls of color are seen as racist, but these dolls are really expensive and most people are just gonna buy the few that speak to them.

[(Anonymous)]

Man, I'm trying to feel bad for you, but the optics here are not great. This is peak "activism via consuming media". You don't have to pretend to like something or shell out money you need for other things just because a game is average or below but diverse, you are not owning the anti-woke dweebs by doing this. If anything it reinforces their belief that diversity = low quality, which isn't and shouldn't be true.

[thewakokid]

Brand loyalty is bullshit, because not only is a brand incapable of being loyal to it's customers, it's in fact incapable of BEING the same brand from one product to another.

Like, take for example: GTA. I have ALWAYS bought GTA games, and I've always enjoyed them. So I think to myself "Rockstar are my guys! I'm so excited for the next GTA". And then you find out that the new blood at rockstar have been forcing out the old creatives and as of right now not ONE of the people who worked on any of the GREAT GTA's are still around at Rockstar.

I loved Naughty dog from Crash to Jak and Dax to most of Uncharted. Then you find out Neil Druckmann had Amy Hennig ousted from the company with bullshit power plays, and then shits out TLOU remake and remaster over and over again.

Even when it's NOT some fucking worm being a sneaky fuck, I LOVED the Yakuza series, and Nagoshi was a fucking bulwark for quality. Then he quits, and the suits take over and... we see what happens.

Bioware, Rocksteady, Volition, Suckerpunch... It's endless. Brands are a never ending example of the Theseus's ship.

Anyway, I gotta know: What game is it?

My best money is on Assassins Creed, but it could be Avowed, or Dragon Age, Saints Row is a little too old for it to still cost £100 even IF it's special edition. I gotta know.

bullshit

[(Anonymous)]

First, there's very few 100 USD games. Asassins Creed is 70 and that's bad enough. Second, I don't believe this secret for a second. FS is usually so quick to shout troll, but stays silent on this clearly made up secret.
Third, nice, OP. Saying that all these woke games are shit. I mean, true, but that's only part of it, aother part beig is that people with no integrity can't be assed to hire decent writers. They get enough money from Blackrock, pay themself a nice salary and call it a day. Woke is just an easy indicator for a shit game made on woke agenda money. Hogwarts Legacy could be a good game if it had decent plot and realistic dialogue. It's woke and shit, but being woke is not the reason it is shit. It's just an indicator.

[starfleetbrat]

Not buying a game does not equal supporting the anti-wokes.

Especially if the game sucks. Thats just rewarding someone for making a crap game.

That $100 would be better spent supporting POC/Queer developers in other ways. For example you could donate to organisations and community groups that support them. Or if there is another POC/Queer dev that makes good games you DO enjoy, then make a donation to their patreon so they can continue to make great games.

[(Anonymous)]

Seen by whom? Do you friends and family keep track of which games you buy? This is weird.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you aware that there are plenty of "woke" games to support that are less than $100...?

[(Anonymous)]

Tangentially related but I cannot take anyone seriously who unironically uses "woke".


It's a bullshit, intentionally vaguely defined term for "opinions of the Left I don't agree with" so that both the guy who thinks trans people are evil but is fine with women working and is in favour of parental leave for fathers, and the tradwife who genuinely thinks that women belong in the kitchen and that men should be the sole breadwinners in the family can both be rallied against the same boogie man without risking alienating either by having too extreme/not extreme enough views.

Similarly useless is neurodiverse/neurotypical. The broadness of the first makes it useless in most conversations and the latter is also just a boogie man to create an in- and out-group.

[(Anonymous)]

:boop:

I free you of the responsibility of propping up games you don't like!

:boop boop:

I give you permission to only buy/play/hype up games you enjoy. Some of them will even be made by Queer/Women/POC/otherwise marginalized developers.

[(Anonymous)]

is this about the new dragon age game

[(Anonymous)]

hm, you really don't?

I'm a "woke", I make fun of chuds even, but I was never pressured in buying a game I didn't want just because it got my politics on it. All you need to support diverse devs is not to thrown out their work just because of the diversity (or be a pos who cries about "diversity hire"), if the game didn't seem interesting, or you heard about it being rightfully not well reviewed, you really don't need to get it.

[bannedbookweek]

This secret is most likely BS as indicated above but what is true is that it's way past time to put down the tumblrism of "stay woke at all costs." Many people still act like this should be a thing but it shouldn't. The only thing that has ever mattered about a video game is if it is fun or not.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah OP, those POC and queer people can't be expected to actually make a good game, so you've got to support any old shit they put out.

Or, in other words: "benevolent" bigotry is a thing. You view LGBT and non-white people as inferior, and this is your way of throwing them a bone. Does that make you mad? Well, then prove me wrong. Treat them like actual people, by judging their work on its merit rather than standing on high and condescending to them. Parents pin the shitty artwork of their toddlers to the fridge in order to encourage them, but these are adults, and if you actually thought they were of equal worth to you, than you'd treat them as such.

[(Anonymous)]

If you really wanted to support "woke" games, you'd look for indie devs on itch.io giving away their games for free with an option to donate as little as $5 to support them as you choose, or Kickstarters for games that are still on the fence about being made. It's what I've been doing for years; my woke game library is thriving and so is my wallet!

[(Anonymous)]

This seems fake to me. This secret seems like exactly what anti-woke dickheads want to believe the explanation is when something they've deemed "woke" succeeds: "Must be desperate virtue-signaling, and woke snowflakes spending money because they refuse to admit we're right."

Like, it's possible this secret is a true opinion someone actually has. But personally my money's on troll.