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⌈ Secret Post #6735 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'd likely be more for AI if it were heavily regulated. And if there were steep punishments for people who steal art/writing/etc to "train" their models. And punishments for those who don't clearly label their AI ragebait.

But really, "I dun wunna give up x thing because cheap/convenient" is infuriating to hear when the world is burning around you and you are knowingly contributing to it, and not out of necessity.

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[(Anonymous)]

Artificial Imagery is heavily polluting and you need to guesswork the damned thing over just doing shit yourself, but as an artist, I'd very much agree if it was heavily regulated and its training data was entirely voluntary. Or if copyright law was reformed into something more logical and practical for the common artist.

[paperghost]

Seriously. It's so frustrating.

And even in the case of "commissions are too expensive"... What artists are you following? I've gotten lovely art for $15-30.

[(Anonymous)]

the artist doesn't matter. a majority of people live paycheck to paycheck and can't afford to spend an extra $30 for one piece of art

[(Anonymous)]

DA but what about artists who need commissions to get by having thrir artwork scraped? This argument makes no sense, most people who use AI aren't too dirt poor to commission a $30 sketch when running Stable Diffusion requires PC specs I can't even afford. I'm paycheck to paycheck too and only get small commissions if I have extra money.

[(Anonymous)]

Pencils can be purchased at the dollar store, and references are free. Sometimes you don't get instant gratification.

[paperghost]

I knew I would get this comment justifying AI lol. So am I. That's why I try to tip artists I like when I can or grab a sketch since we're all struggling.

[(Anonymous)]

"the artist doesn't matter" lmao

Guess what, a fucking artist can't afford to spend money on materials and hours and hours of their time creating a piece of art just so some whiner can complain it's too expensive.

[(Anonymous)]

Cool, then you can't afford a "good" AI unless you're the PRODUCT.

Also Picrew exists. Dollmakers exist. When I grew up, I dealt with what I had and got what I could for free or LEARNED THE FUCKING SKILL. I wasn't allowed dollhouses because they were "expensive" so I gathered shoeboxes from relatives and old scrap shirts and MADE dollhouses. Didn't care they weren't the shiny big wooden ones or branded ones, I still had a blast. Why does it HAVE to be perfect or exact?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't understand the logic of "I'm too poor to commission, so I need AI." I'm low income and my PC is outdated because I can't afford something more recent, a computer that can run these AI programs are a pipe dream for me. I know there's free AI generators online, but they're restrictive garbage. Is this impoverished AI user in the room with us right now...?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, let's be real: it's that they don't respect artists and see them as just being greedy for not seeing the ~beauty~ of their vision and just GIVING them what they want all the time for free. It's spoiled brat mentality.

[(Anonymous)]

da, but... good artists? The last piece I commissioned was $100 and I honestly felt like the artist was undervaluing themselves a bit so I gave them a nice tip.

Any artist only charging $15-30 is DEFINITELY undervaluing themselves and needs to up their prices.

[paperghost]

Depends on the type of art, icons, "your character here" where a sketch is already drawn, flat colored, and thigh/waist-ups cost less than a full rendered image. It makes me sad when artists undercharge, I only commission when I gave extra money but it's best to tip and encourage them to charge by the time taken to draw.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

lol I replied with the same thing right below you. My mind went immediately to character profile type of commissions. "Headshot icons of your D&D party $15 each" type things are pretty popular

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's hard to say anything "definitely" without knowing what was commissioned. Sketch work or line art or character headshots for a tabletop game can be $15-30 easily and be great. Not every commission is full details and shading and things can be "lovely" without them

[(Anonymous)]

Fair, I hadn't been considering headshots but even then I'm used to seeing those for $30-45 and not $15.