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[ SECRET POST #6988 ]

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People who think Remmick/Sammie is proof of racism in this fandom have never been in a fandom before. They are textbook enemies to lovers. The real sign of racism is the fact Smoke/Stack isn't more popular.

Hell yeah I did! I don't know if we'll ever again see someone on the ice who truly gives no fucks about winning and so floats the way she does.

I agree on song preference, but people went feral for those Golden high notes. Award season rewards spectacle over substance.

Yes! I can love a redemption equals death done right. I love that while Anakin is redeemed saving his son, for the rest of the galaxy, he's still Vader. But I do love a redemption arc where they have to live with the things they've done and continue to make amends maybe without being forgiven.

This is why I just can't like Sephiroth: because fandom is insistent on woobifying him even when canon itself makes very clear that he is doing everything of his own free will AND that he is ultimately irredeemable.

Before all that, the reason I couldn't like Sephiroth is he has no personality. Maybe he gains one in the expanded universe but like. He didn't have one in the game canon

This is how I feel about Loki in the MCU. He was fun as a villain. But then the creators saw how popular he was and decided to go along with the fans who woobified him. And retroactively even ruined his villain parts.

Dang, what? People say that Remmick/Sammie being popular is a sign of racism??

I thought Remmick/Sammie as a popular ship would be an indication the Sinners fandom is being slightly less racist than is usual, because most of the time, obvious ships DON'T get shipped because they are interracial/involve black characters in favor of some other white guy/white guy pairing (e.g. what happened to Gus/Shawn from Psych). Remmick/Sammie seemed like the obvious ship that would normally get passed over by fans because they're not interested in black characters, so I thought people would see its popularity in Sinners fandom as a refreshing turn for the better. Weird.

I like Smoke/Stack, but since it's an incest ship, I get that it's not to everyone's taste. And you can still get antis coming for your blood for admitting you like *any* incest pairings in *any* fandom. Even though I like Smoke/Stack, I'm not into this movie enough for it to be worth casually mentioning on my blog that I ship it -- it's just really not a great time to have incest ships. :/

Oooo. I can't think of any examples of that, but I love that idea. I think I'd probably love that too if I saw it. Sounds adorable.

I never played ff7 when it was new but I'd heard about how popular he is just from being on the internet. My gf loves the ff games in general, got the ff7 remakes and wanted to show me them because I'd never played 7 and she was curious about how I'd like or dislike the characters, as in she thought I might like Sephiroth due to him being a villain. Queue me finding him funny as fuck and far too much of a looser to like in any capacity and it's been tickling her that I just Do Not Get the hype for the dude at all.

Like I thought there was something more there than hot guy with white hair, but no, he doesn't even have a fun personality, he just decides to be evil with almost no hesitation and I could not for the life of me find that interesting. Oh well.

I'm just so tired of only screamy-screechy songs getting recognition and getting lauded as the best "sung" songs.

I mean, not to doubt you because I'm not into that genre but "conservative bigots" don't really sound like the people who write lighthearted... anything. I always assumed they're more the types to go for the tryhard grimdark stuff.

Uh... the own free will part is HIGHLY debatable considering the whole "former child soldier who is daddie's science experiment" and that's not even taking the whole Jenova bullshit and his general insanity into account. Which still doesn't excuse what he does but I'm not so sure about it all being THAT clear that he is doing everything of his own free will. Also, it's not even really him for large parts of the game. Which was basically what made him kind of boring to me.

I always though his costume design was silly and his theme song was silly as well. Never understood why that was so popular.

Didn't help that a lot of the time, it wasn't actually him you meet. And the whole Nibelheim thing was too bland to actually give him a personality aside from "damn he crazy" - which makes sense from a narrative POV but it still doesn't make him have an actual personality.

I like brutally efficent/competent characters but they tend to go the Mary-Sue route more often than not, which is a pity.

Repressed, reserved, uptight aristocrats who are either:
(a) played straight and have an inflexible world view, or
(b) gap moé in some way (for example, less capable than they present themselves or they really want to make friends, but don't know how to because they think commoners are different species LMAO)

Reformers with the best of intentions who are too extreme about their own ideals and bring disaster onto everyone's heads (like Pale King from Hollow Knight).

People who struggle with the loss of a previous identity/their self being torn away from them somehow, such as Dr Jekyll.

Assholes with a heart of gold and/or one person they will protect with their life. I think Vegeta just cemented my love for them at an early age.

Yup. I figure he must have a personality somewhere that wasn't in the original game because surely all this fandom must be based on something, but fandoms have started for less, so...

Huh, I haven’t seen that take before and I agree with you, OP, that it’s a bit wide of the mark. Admittedly, I haven’t really gotten into shippy fandom for this one, more meta/analysis than fanfic so far.

On a more general point… Sometimes I think that certain people who have more recently discovered the concept of unconscious/unstated racism go through a period of seeing it everywhere in everything, even when it’s not a particularly relevant factor. All part of the learning process, I guess, and hopefully a step towards a more nuanced understanding of racism.

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You’re not wrong. I have this tendency towards naivety where I think that starting with a healthy dose of validation will help that advice stick a bit better. And maybe that is true sometimes, but some people clearly can’t move past “this is unfair (or not how I think it should be)” in order to get to practical steps.

I like bitch-ass villains in general, ones who know they're wrong and are doing it anyway, the ones who think they're right, the ones who are sympathetic but still need to be stopped. I just enjoy villains in general.

I like legitimately Good heroes as well, the ones who really do just try to do the best they can even if the odds are stacked against them. I just really like the heroic sacrifice for the greater good thing that comes with these characters, and sure I like them to live as well, but if they do die and it works? Narrative kryptonite to me tbh.

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Very laid back or out of sync character who is also the most proficient or capable person in the room. I like characters who are very confident and settled in themselves and don't care what others think. Examples: Chris Knight (Real Genius), Wei Wuxian (MDZS), Elle Woods (Legally Blonde)

I don't like it when the character has made being competent/smart their entire personality and it becomes arrogance hiding insecurity and then they use it as a cudgel to try to always get their way: Tony Stark (MCU), Sherlock Holmes (only BBC Sherlock), Hermione Granger (Harry Potter)

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