[ SECRET POST #7001 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #7001 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 32 secrets from Secret Submission Post #1000.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

The first two lines of the comment ask if OP is bitter. The third asks if the secret is something else.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

No, the first line assumes that Secret OP is bitter. The second one does the same. It isn't until the third that they even entertain the possibility that it might be something entirely different. Why would they assume that unless they think the secret sounds bitter to them?

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

I’ve read the comment over many times and at no point do the question marks disappear. Maybe you should get your eyes checked.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

So, this may come as a shock to you? But people can use punctuation incorrectly? Just because it has a question mark doesn't mean that it's a question. That also doesn't mean that questions can't be assumptions.

So, you didn't do well in English class? Or you've forgotten everything taught in English class? Something else? (<---not actually a question, just like comment OP's)

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

The secret trails off, inviting readers to finish the secret. Two specific guesses were made, and made clearly as guesses. A third clearly invited OP to fill in the blank for themselves. I’m sorry that you didn’t read it the way it was intended but it’s honestly weird that you’re doubling down on the questions being statements instead of questions even after it was pointed out that aren’t statements. Instead you’ve decided someone doesn’t know the difference between a period and a question mark, which is frankly an insane assumption.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

So, when did you stop beating your sister?

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

I’m sorry, I have no idea what this means. It reads like a reference to something but I do not know what.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

So you haven't? So you're abusive?

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

They are comparing the random question in comment OP to the random question of beating your sister. Both seem out of the blue.

(frozen comment) Are you trolling?

[(Anonymous)]

You have to be at this point.

(frozen comment) Re: Are you trolling?

[(Anonymous)]

No. They’re literally questions. I’m baffled that apparently multiple people think they aren’t. If you read the comment immediately after the secret it makes narrative sense. The questions beings statements makes no sense either in conjunction with the secret or as a standalone comment.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[iff_and_xor]

If you would genuinely like a little explanation on rhetorical questions and other “speech acts”, let me know.

Sometimes it’s a thing people just don’t learn or think about.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

NART
You are a kind human.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
But they clearly are NOT rhetorical questions. I would however love an explanation for why multiple people can read the comment in its entirety after the secret and think the questions aren’t questions. The comment spells out that the meaning of the secret isn’t clear and is questioning what it is.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[iff_and_xor]

Okay. You’re right, it isn’t a rhetorical question because it does expect an answer.

However, the questions still contain information about the questioner’s thoughts and assumptions. The comment presented two possible interpretations of the secret that were explicitly about bitterness. It also left open the possibility that there were other interpretations they hadn’t thought of.

If I asked you to interpret a piece of art and you said it might be about sadness for a lost love or it might be about sadness for a lost child or might be about something else, I think a reasonable observer would understand that you perceived some sadness in it, even if you left room open for other interpretations.

Do with that what you will.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

Or the assumption is that secrets tend to be people bitter or disappointed about things so that would be a safe guess and has nothing to do with the state of the mind of the person who doesn’t understand what the secret OP means.

Jesus fucking Christ it’s like an Abbot and Costello sketch in here tonight.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

Normalize recognizing when you're wrong, instead of being defensive and insulting because you're embarrassed.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

It is because you used biterness specifically, which people read to mean you specifically inferred biterness in the secret. If you had left it non specific and asked what the secret was about in an open way nobody would have had a problem.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[iff_and_xor]

Yes, I think I was trying to say this in more meandering terms.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

DA I don't think anyone even had a problem with someone assuming bitterness? Assuming bitterness wasn't the weird part. The insistence that nobody said it sounded bitter was the weird part.

Idk. When like 5 different people are like 'no, that comment definitely sounded like it was assuming bitterness' maybe it came off a way they didn't intend and it's not everyone else who is wrong...

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

The insistence that nobody said it sounded bitter was the weird part.

True! I thought they were confused why people were saying it sounded bitter, because they seem to think making it a question negated the bitter part. Or something?

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

Leaving it non specific would just muddy it though since the secret is already muddy. The secret is quite literally missing the secret part.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

No, it's not. They don't care for Heated Rivalry recs. It's obvious.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

Leaving it open would not muddy it. Asking "so what do you mean?" instead of "do you mean you are bitter?" would have been an acceptable option.

(frozen comment) Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

So the point of your comment is that you're an asshat making bad faith interpretations of peoples' comments just to stir the pot?