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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-12-16 09:21 am

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Because I'm getting tons of PMs and stuff about this: stuff featuring actual porn of lolicon/shota/whatever will be linked, or was supposed to be just linked, just like every other secret featuring explicit porn. But sometimes I make mistakes and a secret gets by that should have been just linked. If a secret is posted that should be linked or warned for, notify me in the name the fandom thread and I'll fix it as soon as I can.

Unfortunately, secrets about lolicon/shota will not be banned because some people think it's wrong or gross or whatever. Some people think fic about rape or gore is wrong or gross or whatever. Some people think slash is wrong or gross or whatever. I'm sure everyone agrees that actual child porn is a bad thing. Lolicon/shota is not actual child porn.

Once again, I'm sorry for letting #127 get past my radar yesterday, and will try not to let it happen again.

[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Seeing an image of a naked girl crying after being raped by an older man upsets me, and my panties are in a knot?

Yeahh ok. You might not have been offended since, yeah, it's just a drawing it's not real, but it upset me and I don't think it's funny. That stuff can be triggering for some people with bad experiences, too. I didn't get mad at technophile cos I figured it was a mistake and it's no big deal that it slipped, but I didn't want to see it. :\

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
This. That image brought up some bad stuff for me. I know FS isn't my safe space, but I really wanted to spend last night enjoying myself instead of calming myself down from bad memories.

[identity profile] honeysuckle-raw.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You win. <3

[identity profile] aurorn.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to think the above person wasn't saying that being upset over seeing the image was "having panties in a knot", it was blaming the mod for missing one that was the thing to be mocked.

[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
If that's the case than I apologize for confronting the commenter about it, but I think it's still something worth saying to others at least.

[identity profile] aurorn.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with your comment if it isn't the case and totally support your right to make your above comment. You are more than allowed to be offended by the picture (its your right), and I wouldn't let anyone say otherwise.

Edit liek whoa!
P.S. I've been reading your other comments and I must say that you are a very reasonable and awesome-sounding person. Rock on. :)
Edited 2009-12-16 18:52 (UTC)
ext_10249: (mad men - betty)

[identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
<3 I'm glad I missed the FS entry yesterday. Obviously it was an accident and I don't blame technophile, but all the "lol people are too sensitive" is making me facepalm.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone is triggered by displays of homosexuality because of some past experience, does that mean you think secrets like this one (http://i46.tinypic.com/6qlbom.jpg) should be behind a cut too? What if they're religiously offended by it?

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, here we go with the homosexuality = child molestation comparison.

Come on, throw in the 'if men can get married to men, why not to animals as well?' one too for a complete bingo card.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
What if someone was molested or raped as a child by a peer of the same sex. Don't you think that the idea of sexual same-sex contact would trigger them? Or does triggering only count if its straight or adult-on-child rape?

[identity profile] ayeayes.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone was molested by someone of the opposite sex, does that mean they should be traumatized by a picture of a man and a woman kissing? :|

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, what if it did? Should secrets with pictures of people kissing be hidden with a link? A triggering image is a triggering image, no matter how few people it triggers.

[identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, you are serious.


I'd recommend sitting in the sun for a bit until your brain germinates.

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[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you seriously trying to say that KISSING, something people see their PARENTS and people walking down the street doing that has no violent intent whatsoever, is the same kind of trigger as images of RAPE and MOLESTATION?

Levels exist, hon.

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you moron, it doesn't trigger me. Just like people who were molested by the opposite sex aren't triggered by ADULT het kissing.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You =/= everyone. Stop assuming that just because something doesn't trigger YOU doesn't mean it doesn't trigger ANYBODY.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice try.

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[identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, you managed to get a full bingo card in less than fifty words. Are you even serious? If you're a troll you're a terribly unfunny one. Please start being stupid over something that doesn't matter.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't even start.

[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Um if it was homosexual RAPE than yeah, but if it's just boys kissing that shouldn't be any more triggering than heterosexual kissing.

And if it's a religious thing? Then is seeing people lying/being atheist also offensive?

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Who are you to tell other people what they should and shouldn't be triggered by?

[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
First of all, kissing is typically not considered NSFW and any other homosexual acts would be considered NSFW so these people are warned before they even click the link. Technophile has a policy of keeping rape/molestation/outright porn as links and not visible even behind the cut, so people don't expect to see it by clicking the cut. So if it's kissing, they are warned before hand that subjects are NSFW and they may not want to view.

If they ARE triggered by kissing, they probably have enough problems walking down the street seeing couples, so I don't exactly know how to protect them from that.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Something can be NSFW and not be a trigger and something can be a trigger but still be SFW.

I was asking about same-sex kissing specifically. Don't you see how someone who was raped or molested by a same-sex peer as a child and grew up in a society that can outright demonize homosexual behaviour might be triggered by seeing sexual samesex contact? Even something like a samesex kiss?

[identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoo defending the hypothetical. Double whoo for defending poor widdle homophobes.

Why am I still in this thread. You're either a troll or one of the stupidest and most unintentionally offensive people I've ever seen.

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[identity profile] 9kinds.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not about telling other people what they are allowed to be triggered by, I'm sure there exists a person out there triggered by something as innocent seeming to the average person as a kiss. However, when everyone's personal experiences vary, it is simply impossible to know and cover every single base. I think it's reasonable that there is a line, graphic content and common triggers are often warned for.