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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-22 07:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #1571 ]

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
06. http://i52.tinypic.com/28ai7na.png

(Anonymous) 2011-04-22 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
The first thing I thought when I saw this was "Oh, a secret about how she ripped off Madonna?"

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[identity profile] yukinoomoni.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I just can't get over how it sounds exactly like "Express Yourself" by Madonna.

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[identity profile] laydownhere.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear white straight cis girl:

You do not get to tell people what they can or cannot find empowering.

Shut up.

Love,

A dyke (who has major problems with Lady Gaga)

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[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
STOP FEELING EMPOWERED, GUYS!!!

INVERT ICON

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[identity profile] closetospring.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
gurl ia that BTW is way problematic, but if you see that then can't you also see that it's kind of iffy for a self-identified cis, straight white girl to be saying "HEY GAY/TRANS*/POC FOLKS WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THIS IS BAD FOR YOU, YOU'RE BRAINWASHED! LISTEN TO ME!"

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8/10

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[identity profile] tenonthedot.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
BECAUSE GAY PEOPLE CAN ONLY EMPOWER OTHER GAY PEOPLE. TOTALLY.

Lesbian here.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-22 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Lesbian here, and I didn't like it just because it felt preachy. I still bought her t-shirt at the concert because I love Gaga, but my god it was preachy. I think maybe her heart was in the right place doing it (or she realizes she has lots of gay fans) but I genuinely think she was trying to spread a message of diversity. It'd be nice to see a star that's not straight/white/otherwise privileged do it, but obv we're not to that point culturally yet.
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I still don't like it because I hate feeling preached to in music. Loooove all the rest of her songs though. I'm a fan of Gaga, not a hater of any sort, and went to her concert... but the song is preachy. (Now, ask my about Katy Perry. "I Kissed a Girl" is using us as a stunt. Born This Way wasn't I don't think... Maybe a stunt, but the right kind aside from being too darned preachy.)

Re: Lesbian here.

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[identity profile] suave-badass.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I loathe BTW, but I thought Gaga has stated that she's bisexual?

Other then that, what [livejournal.com profile] laydownhere said: Someone like you doesn't have the right to tell me (a bi, hispanic woman) what's empowering and what's not, so shut the hell up.

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[identity profile] deavar.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I've heard the guy who once told Lady Gaga that gay people have money feels terribly sorry now.

[identity profile] blackjackrocket.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
So...white straight cis girls never need to feel empowered, and should never try to empower anybody else?

I suppose she should stop working for gay rights, too, huh?

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[identity profile] nota-lone.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
... I'm not sure what makes it your place to call appropriation (coming from another cis, straight, white girl).
I'm in favor of anything that makes you feel empowered. Looking forward to the discussion, though.

Also, isn't Gaga bi? That counts as LGBTQ, anon.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-22 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
...I thought the whole point about being trans or queer is that you are born that way (born trans or born queer).

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-22 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
but since you're a straight white cis girl who are you to tell what other people should find empowering or not in this discussion?...i'm not one to use the argument of "privilege" but yeah, idk what you're trying to tell

[identity profile] mizufae.livejournal.com 2011-04-22 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
She's said time and time again that she's bisexual.

You can have all the opinions you like about her and her cheesy song, but please, at least acknowledge that she doesn't identify as heterosexual.

We white bisexual cis girls are not unicorns. We exist!

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[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Ah yes, the old "you're not a part of a minority/under-privileged/socially oppressed group, therefore you can't tell anyone it's OK to be themselves" schtick.

I love me some of that.

lolz

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[identity profile] lady-lilith.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Since you said so, I will no longer be happy that the radio plays songs that don't have to be read as subtext in being about gay love.

Thanks for setting me.... straight.

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[identity profile] oaktree89.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
1. What do you want, cookies?
2. Lady Gaga is out as bisexual.
3. You do not get to tell people how to feel, especially with regards to their oppression.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, The song isn't perfect, but to call it 'appropriation' would require a rather broad interpretation of what that word means. I'm not sure I would even go so far as to say that getting offended on other people's behalf and thinking they're wrong for not agreeing with you would truly count as appropriation either, but it's certainly a hell of a lot more patronising than singing a song about how everyone has the right to feel good about themselves.

[identity profile] morrienymph.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
So, because Gaga is white and female (she's bisexual, not straight btw), she can't empower others?

As another bisexual white woman, fuck you too.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Well I'm sorry that you feel that way. I personally enjoy the song, find some of the language problematic and think it's cool she sampled Madonna.

WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!

Also as a cisgendered heterosexual chick, OP, you really have no right to judge what queer/trans/non-white people think.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
lol, if you hadn't said you were white, straight, cis etc. at the end a few people might have agreed. As it is... it kind of sounds like you're saying that you're a better role model or supporter of queer/etc. rights than queer/trans/PoC themselves (who like this song anyway)

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, cis, straight, white girl.

I don't think you get to tell trans people, gay people or people of color what we should and should not be offended by.

That is not your goddamn call to make.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, JFC. Really? Really. You want to tell people what it's okay and not okay to like, because you think it's appropriating, even though you're not even a part of any of those groups that you are so 'offended' for?

Fuck you, and fuck the horse you rode in on.

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OPS, SORRY

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"P.O.C" irks me too anon

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Gay here.

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