[ SECRET POST #1574 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1574 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 173 secrets from Secret Submission Post #225.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ], [ 1 - unreadable ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

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[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. People who are having a shitty time in fandom are doing something wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you a small name fan? Because I never have any trouble, but I'm a SNF, and I can see that avoiding hostility is a lot easier for me than it is for the MNFs and BNFs I'm friends with.

SNFs who can't avoid wank clearly are doing something wrong, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Or are just plain unlucky. Probably both.

[(Anonymous)]

The only time I got caught up in the edge of wank it really didn't have anything to do with fandom, it just happened to be fandom friends. And it wasn't on the internet... Long, long, loooong time ago.

[ianthine9.livejournal.com]

It really depends on what circles you run in.

There are some fandoms I've seen where the only drama came from outside of fandom. Like, there are two fandom friends, and one of them went to visit the other one and discovered that they were not the person they seemed to be online. But not like, fandom drama or ship wars, or anything like that.

But then there are other fandoms that seem to draw drama queens who just like to stir up drama, and that are horribly wanky and horrible, and miserable.

So yeah, it all depends on what you're a fan of.

[gabzillaz.livejournal.com]

IMO it depends on the fandom and how involved you are.

so what you're saying is....

[(Anonymous)]

Guys hey guys, if you have a horrible time and people are trolling you and mocking you and really making you miserable, don't you know that it's really all your own fault? You're totally doing things wrong.

Re: so what you're saying is....

[judo-creature.livejournal.com]

A+ would lol again.

Re: so what you're saying is....

[(Anonymous)]

i believe a careful reading of the secret would indicate that the person creating the drama is the person at fault. so, you know, not what you said.

Re: so what you're saying is....

[(Anonymous)]

Mm, no. Sorry, I've read and reread the thing and, no, it's exactly what they said. The poster, however unintentionally, is saying because they have been lucky enough to avoid any negative experiences in fandom anyone who does somehow brought it on themselves.

Bullshit.

Re: so what you're saying is....

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I know, right? God knows that I totally deserved to have a pack of shitheads mock me behind my back for two years simply because they didn't like the pairing I was writing then. But I guess I brought it on myself for daring to write what I wanted instead of what the self-appointed fandom police thought was good, right?

Newsflash, OP: there are people out there with rotten souls and empty little lives who will seize any excuse--no matter how unjustified, petty or ridiculous--to rip someone else down in exchange for a fleeting moment of delusion that they aren't complete wastes of mentally diseased flesh. Many fandoms are packed full of them.

If you've truly never had any trouble, you have no idea just how fucking lucky you've been.

Re: so what you're saying is....

[(Anonymous)]

eeeeeesh. I believe it's true though.

Re: so what you're saying is....

[(Anonymous)]

D:

Re: so what you're saying is....

[momentsplinter.livejournal.com]

Pretty much.

[(Anonymous)]

Ahh so that person who latched on to me, did the whole fannish stalking/talking smack behind friends lock, and generally made life miserable for me was my fault.

Well that clears that up. Thanks so much OP!

[haleysings.livejournal.com]

Maybe your fandoms tend to be smaller? I think the bigger a fandom is the more likely it is to happen. Because yeah, agreeing with the other comments here--sometimes it's your fault, but sometimes people will give you drama just for liking something they don't or being a mod or whatever picky thing they have on the day. I've experienced both drama that was totally my fault and some that would've happened no matter what I did.

[(Anonymous)]

It's all about the crowd you run with.

[jlh.livejournal.com]

Can you avoid causing drama? Yes.

Can you avoid being called out even during massive drama? Yes.

Can you avoid ever even being touched by drama, ie, your friends getting attacked, some crazy thing happening on the comm you run, etc? Not always.

If you never ever make any waves, never take on any fandom jobs? Yeah, maybe you can do that. If you are preternaturally aware of what kinds of people draw that kind of attention to themselves and avoid them? Yeah. If you avoid fandoms that are centered around canons or personalities (meaning rpf) that have a lot of drama? Or open-ended shippy fandoms? Yeah.

But that's a shitton of avoiding to do. I do pretty well staying out of the middle of it. I think that's the best most of us can do. And if you're a BNF? It's nigh impossible.

[nofaves.livejournal.com]

I guess I still don't get the problems with avoiding drama. I write what I like, and if anyone bothers to read it or comment on it, that's fine. (OK, I'll be honest, it's wonderful.) If people don't like it and think that sending some flaming review will hurt me, they're in for a shock.

I also read what I like. If I find it not to my liking mid-read, I backbutton. I don't flame the author, even if it's the most awful piece of trash I've ever seen. THAT I would see as a waste of my time.

I'm in fandom to have fun, both in reading and writing. I'm not in it to improve it, or police it, or transform it, or to push some personal agenda.

(Oh, and if I found a comm that got its collective rocks off on drama? I'd likely show up now and again just for the lulz. But I certainly wouldn't participate by commenting regularly, nor would I offer anything I'd written.)

[jlh.livejournal.com]

I guess it depends on your definition of drama. If you think ship fights are drama, then you shouldn't ship het ships in open canons.

I'm one of the mods on a comm and there's very little drama, but there's some. Sometimes something happens and we have to decide how to manage it. That meets some people's definition of drama, hence my saying, you know, don't mod a comm. A really good friend of mine is pretty much the most drama-free person I've ever seen who's been in fandom as long as she has, but the moment she did something popular people started talking shit about her on anon memes. Is that drama? For some people that is.

I don't know that doing that is pushing a personal agenda or policing things or transforming them or whatever. Some people like to contribute in ways that aren't just reading and writing and not having a lot of personal interactions, I guess?

[nofaves.livejournal.com]

People actually FIGHT over which ship is better? Why? What's the purpose?

I shipped (and wrote) Kate/Gibbs back in the day. Didn't mean I didn't enjoy the occasional Abby/Gibbs, or that I couldn't beta a Kate/Tony author. I also shipped (but never wrote) Grissom/Sara, but I certainly didn't hate on the Grissom/Catharine fics.

Anything well-written gets my approval!

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

Oh honey. I was in three fandoms over 14 years before I ran into the Mean Girls of 'Shipwar Ruination. You'll get there someday.

[(Anonymous)]

It depends on the fandom, or even communities you're in. Some fandoms are full of nice, mature, fun people, and the few idiots are easily ignored. Other fandoms consists of hysterical, whiny bitches (before someone jumps at me, I mean bitches of all genders), who dogpile you for your pairing, favourite character, whatever. Like you, I got extremely lucky in my choice of fandoms for over 10 years now, I was always in comms with virtually no wank - the worst we got were occasional heated arguments, but nobody over held a real grudge after that. As long as you stay away from wanky fandoms, no, you're not a statistical anomaly. Just a lucky person who always likes fandoms with cool fans. ;)

[anthropomorphe.livejournal.com]

my problem is that i can never find people into my fandoms, sob.

some people in fandom can be huge bitches and ruin it for people, but those huge bitches are usually the minority. they just get blown out of proportion because they made a whole lot of noise while throwing their hissy fits.

s'what i think, anyway.