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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-14 08:12 pm

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
22. http://i51.tinypic.com/212flfk.jpg

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(Anonymous) 2011-07-15 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I've actually seen some pretty well thought out essays to explain how Ginny Weasley manages to qualify in the later books as a Mary-Sue with quotes and citations used. One even wanted H/G to happen before book six. I agree about the term being used way too much for female characters when it doesn't apply. However, for Ginny, I have to disagree with you.

Also, thinking that your friends are stupid just because they have a different opinion than you about a fictional character? LOL wow.

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[identity profile] yoshi12370.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I actually like Ginny.

*shrug*

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(Anonymous) 2011-07-15 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I've always hated that dress. What was the costume designer thinking??

But yes, the Mary Sue label is thrown around way too much. Nowaways it's usually used to describe a female character that the viewer doesn't like.

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[identity profile] vivafreedom.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I think I'd have liked her better if she'd been developed more.

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(Anonymous) 2011-07-15 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
call Ginny is a Mary-Sue

You might want to check your grammar before you submit a secret claiming your friends and other people are stupid.

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[identity profile] visiblemarket.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a traditionalist in that I think the "Mary Sue" label should only be used for OCs in fanfic. If it's in canon, then "Canon Sue", etc, or just plain "poorly developed character".

[identity profile] antler-action.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. If she's a Mary Sue, what exactly does that make Harry?

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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2011-07-15 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck the term "Mary Sue" and its shitty implications anyway, tbh.

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[identity profile] wottie.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I adore Ginny and I agree about the Mary Sue thing, but mostly I just think we shouldn't necessarily use the term "Mary Sue" as something that automatically dismisses a character. A character can be smart, beautiful, perfect etc. and still be worthwhile - it just all depends on how they're written. I think Ginny has a fantastic personality and whilst her sudden transformation was a little unexpected, I mean, that kind of thing also happens in real life, particularly around that age, so... idk, I'm kind of cool with it.

That is one ugly dress though.

[identity profile] justaminuet.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I never thought of her as a Mary Sue, but definitely as a poorly developed character. I just could not stand the transition (or lack thereof) of her personality in book 6. I think Rowlings just failed handling her well, which, to me personally, stood out a lot amongst a much stronger, much more well done cast, mainstays and extras alike.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-15 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh God, that dress. Why

[identity profile] archerstar.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Ginny is a poorly developed character in many ways and I understand why the label gets applied to her, but the term is ridiculously overused.

[identity profile] miakun.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh. Ginny hate is annoying. Like, whatever, if you don't like her or you don't like H/G (I didn't love the execution either and probably would have preferred he ended up with Luna or something, but whatever), but calling her a Sue for having qualities that are only allowed with male characters apparently is such a peeve of mine.

[identity profile] princess-emmi.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really have any feelings regarding Ginny one way or another... but that dress is so ugly, it's all I could think about reading this secret :(

(Anonymous) 2011-07-15 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think she's a Mary Sue either--but in the lead up to the H/G there are a lot of scenes that seem to be about showing how awesome she is, especially for Harry. I remember thinking no character stood a chance against her in those scenes.

[identity profile] kryptoncat.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
She's a Weasley, I couldn't hate her if I tried!

[identity profile] kal-ella.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
no, they're right

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I hate it when people use "Mary Sue" to mean "female character I don't like."

[identity profile] countess-k.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
The term I would use is "underdeveloped character."

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[identity profile] melissasbrain.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't like Ginny. I don't think she's a Mary Sue, but I do think she is underdeveloped and kind of useless.

In fact, the only things she's for are (a) getting into trouble and needing to be saved, and (b) giving Harry a son.

If someone would like to prove me wrong, I would gladly welcome it.

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(Anonymous) 2011-07-15 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I think Ginny is a Mary Sue. She didn't start out as one; but then she suddenly became perfect at everything-- the best Quiddich player, the most beautiful, as smart as Hermione, etc, specifically so that Harry could marry into the Weasley clan and Hermione and Ron would go uncontested.

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[identity profile] citroneuse.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
You'd think, if she was a Mary Sue, they'd have put her in a green dress to complement her 'flaming red hair and pale, glowing white skin' instead of whatever the fuck monstrosity she's wearing in that picture.

[identity profile] gabzillaz.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
She's not a Mary Sue.

I understand if people find her bland or annoying, but just because you dislike a character doesn't make it a Sue.

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