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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-03 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #1705 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1705 ⌋


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[identity profile] arathe.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, this secret was the final straw. I've never played Sims, but I think I want to.

Should I get 2 or 3? (I ask because it seems like a lot of people still play 2)

Also, despite being unfamiliar with the game, I think that's kind of adorable, OP. :D

Not OP

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I personally prefer Sims 2. I like the graphics better and it has more to do since it has more expansions. I also started with that game so transitioning to Sims 3 was too much.

I own both games though. They're both fun. I'd recommend looking through the legacychallenge community or something for legacies of both games and see which kind of thing you like more. If that makes sense.

Re: Not OP

[identity profile] chibi-kachi.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Sims 2 is probably the best way to go if you've never played Sims at all I think.

I agree with the user above me that there is a lot more to do with all the expansions Sims 2 has not to mention the very active player-created websites that still exist.

Not to mention if your money-conscious you can probably pick up the majority of the Sims 2 expansions and stuff packs for very nice prices since they are not the 'current' sims out.

Sims 3, on the other hand, is rather nifty with the new things it can do and is alot more in-game custom friendly then I ever found Sims 2 to be.

In the end I suggest going to youtube and checking out some usermade vids (either on building houses, legacies, or even game intros) to figure out which one appeals to your tastes better.


Just be forewarn that no matter which version you get it does eat up a nice bit of space on your computer and is mildly addictive if you really get into it.

Re: Not OP

[identity profile] arathe.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the suggestions, guys! I AM a little money-conscious at the moment, since we're saving for a big trip and the spousal unit likes to side-eye any frivolous expenditures, so that's a good point!

Thanks for the suggestion about looking at youtube vids, too. Hadn't really considered that. :D

[identity profile] time-ambassador.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
If you have a slower or older-model computer, I'd go with 2 (my computer is only 3 years old and Sims 3 sometimes lags and freezes for a minute or two). There's still really amazing custom content being created for 2 that makes the game look incredible, and the gameplay of 2 is still totally addicting. But if you've got a higher-end computer, I'd say Sims 3 all the way.

[identity profile] arathe.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Mine's about two years old, but it wasn't really top end when I got it, and the video card isn't anything to write home about. So 2 might be the better option for now.

Thanks! :D

[identity profile] cyren-2132.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I've heard of 3 and the 30 minutes I spent playing it at my sister's, I would get 2.

Sims 3 doesn't sound bad, and there are way more options for designing characters, but there's just SO MUCH to keep track of when it comes to gameplay. It felt more like I was just trying to keep my Sim alive and happy enough to continue doing basic functions rather than creating stories for them.

I *think* Sims 3 is more of an enforced Legacy house, where you just have that house in a neighborhood and you play THAT Sim (and any other Sims that join the family).

Wheareas, I think Sims 2 is a little more user-friendly when it comes to Sim!Needs, and I love that I can have a neighborhood of houses/families that each can be played separately and can also interact with the other houses. For instance, if Sim!Harry Potter invites Sim!Dean Winchester to his house, and they get into a huge fight, if I then go play the Winchester house for awhile, Dean would still be mad at Harry for the fight they had.

Also, if you're going to do Sims 2, I would recommend getting the NIghtlife and Seasons expansion packs. University and Apartment Life are okay (I don't have the others) but Nightlife and Seasons actually add to gameplay in all aspects, not just when a Sim goes to college or decides to live in an apartment.

Long comment is long, and I have to get ready for work, so I hope it makes sense.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
"It felt more like I was just trying to keep my Sim alive and happy enough to continue doing basic functions rather than creating stories for them."

Oh good. I thought I was just bad at the game. xD I couldn't even get my Sim out of the house because they spent the entire time in the red.

[identity profile] cyren-2132.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think the straw that broke me on Sims 3 was "You've just been to work, and you need so many points to get promoted, oh, and HERE'S THIS EXTRA BOOK! Read it, too (and don't forget to make friends, get the required cooking/mechanical/body/whatever points, have fun and stay alive)!"

Plus, I don't really remember, but it seemed like there was more to keep track of when it came to relationships and aspirations.

But I feel *kind of* bad grousing about how hard Sims 3 is to manage when I mercilessly rolled my eyes at my dad for sticking with the original Sims because he just couldn't handle Sims 2.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
(da) I'm surprised at this comment thread, cause I found 3 much easier than 2. The sims can actually take care of themselves for more than five seconds without your guidance in 3 - in 2 they will just play guitar or sit in the hottub until they're completely in the red, in 3 I found them skilling, exercising, cooking etc fairly reasonably without me telling them at all. 3 also eliminated the awful friend requirement for job promotions so I found jobs much simpler too.

I dunno, after achieving a certain level of wealth in 3 I just let them dick around on their own. In 2 I felt like I had to constantly micromanage just so they didn't piss themselves at work.

[identity profile] zoey-says.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
IA. The UI also added some handy buttons as well. There's a button on the work tab that will send them straight to work if they're supposed to be there. There's also a button on their portrait that will call them back home from where ever they are.

I suppose I can see how the wants could make it seem like there's more to do. I personally really like them. They're like little goals, but if I don't complete them that's not a big deal either.

[identity profile] fadeinthewash.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
But I feel *kind of* bad grousing about how hard Sims 3 is to manage when I mercilessly rolled my eyes at my dad for sticking with the original Sims because he just couldn't handle Sims 2.

I find that funny because I just played The Sims 1 last week for the first time in a long while, and it kicked my ass. IMO the games get easier the newer they are. TS3 in particular goes out of its way to minimize motive needs: got rid of comfort and environment + there's all the perks or whatever Sims can get like Steel Bladder that lock the bladder need. The original Sims had no weekends, no days off work/school, and no little aspiration cheaty objects to boost their moods.

[identity profile] arathe.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I definitely think I'm leaning towards 2. It'll be cheaper, run more smoothly on my computer, and seems like a good point to jump in. I can always try 3 later if I'm so inclined.

And thanks for the expansion suggestions! Hopefully I'll be able to find a bundle pack somewhere, but if not, I'll keep that in mind. :D

[identity profile] honestys-easy.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
For instance, if Sim!Harry Potter invites Sim!Dean Winchester to his house, and they get into a huge fight, if I then go play the Winchester house for awhile, Dean would still be mad at Harry for the fight they had.
This is a fantastic visual, thank you so much.

(Also, thank you for letting me know other people put multi-fandom characters into the same neighborhoods in their Sims! Their wacky shenanigans are always more entertaining that way. :))

[identity profile] cyren-2132.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hee, oh yes. I have an entire Fandom City. Before the last computer crash I had a giant, spired house surrounded by water (except for a 3-square-wide pathway) that became my Stargate Atlantis house, where everybody except Carson lived, because Carson had gone off to live in a hut surrounded by gardens with Neville Longbottom. Carson was the only one who didn't mind that Neville was a PlantSim. All the water at Atlantis House made that particularly lot really slow and jumpy, though.

But I was most disappointed about losing my SPN and Potter story lines. Castiel had become a Good Witch, because its the closest to an angel you can get, and he, Sam, Dean and the Harry Potter Trio were about to trek off (okay, be moved into) Goth Malfoy Manor, where lived Vamp!Draco and his daughter and lackeys, for an epic battle full of fighting, lightning, rainbows, bees and fire.

I also had finally gotten Sim!Esposito abducted by aliens so he and Ryan could raise a green little alien baby in the Castle fandom. *Sigh* I miss that neighborhood.

(If you're interested, for a while I did a few SPN-heavy Fandom City picspams: Sam and Dean move in. (http://cyren-2132.livejournal.com/389734.html), Castiel is created (http://cyren-2132.livejournal.com/413971.html) (Less of a picspam, more of a "Wow, that turned out really well!") and Castiel angels up (http://cyren-2132.livejournal.com/414790.html).)

[identity profile] caffeinefreeddp.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Get 2. Way better, easily moddable, and far, far, faaaaar less glitchy.

[identity profile] zoey-says.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I personally prefer Sims 3 over Sims 2, but they both have their pros and cons.

The Sims 3 is the latest version, so they tend to cost more. But the first one has been out for awhile and I always see it on sale or bundled with other expansions for reasonable prices. On the other hand, I've seen Sims 2 frequently being sold at $20 per expansion. Sims 3 is still getting patches and being supported by EA. This can be good or bad, depending on how you look at it. The Sims 2 is "complete" so what you see is what you get, but this could be a lot less frustrations. I don't know what kind of computer you have, but a decent graphics card can make things a lot less annoying. Sims 2 has a lot of loading screens. Loading to go to university. Loading to go downtown. :/ I love the streamline loading of Sims 3. That's probably the biggest reason I prefer it. Also, Sims 3 has better customizing. You can change colouring and patterns of almost anything, so less custom files. Sims 2 isn't as flexible. In the end, it probably really depends on your computer. I know a lot of people can't run Sims 3, but can run Sims 2 fine.

[identity profile] zoey-says.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Also, http://modthesims.info/ is a great place for questions and finding custom content. :D

[identity profile] arathe.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the link! :D

I think I've settled on Sims 2, if only because I can get most of the expansions in bundles of three for twenty bucks a pop (If I decide I like it), as well as the main game and two expansions for the same. So that's pretty cool.

Plus my computer is juuuust old enough that I'm not sure it'd be able to run 3 smoothly.

[identity profile] piratesswoop.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Since you like the Sims 3 as well, I would suggest looking into these mods if you don't have them already: www.the-isz.com/nraas/

I love them, they alter the game's story progression and the townies get married and have kids and get jobs and you get a ton of customizable options with the master controller, it's amazing, i love it!

[identity profile] zoey-says.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, NRaas mods are awesome. :D I think my game would be borked without the Overwatch and ErrorTrap. I had some problems with Late Night lagging my computer. Too many cars and stereos were on, but the mods clean it up. ^^

Sometimes I use AwesomeMod with them, but I ran into a problem with my sims preforming a 'flirt' action (it was 'Compliment' and I thought it was in the friendly category) with a teen which got her sent to jail and stuck with a permanent Pedobear moodlet. It was hilarious (at first). But then she couldn't get a job (she got fired) and no one wanted to have a relationship with her. She was a sad sim. :( After much lurking I found out Pescado intended it to be that way and refuses to ever change it and will call you a sick pervert. Too bad, it's almost a perfect mod. :/

[identity profile] classic-mold137.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I can't play now without Nraas's Overwatch, Story Progression, and Master Controller mods.

[identity profile] johnnyabatti.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Whatever you do, don't start with a Playstation Sims game.