[ SECRET POST #1705 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1705 ⌋


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Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 241 secrets from Secret Submission Post #244.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Am I heartless for not getting that the love for a pet shouldn't be quite up there with siblings or children or...

[philstar22.livejournal.com]

I agree. Hedwig's death was sad, don't get me wrong, but I found other deaths a lot sadder.

[runonmoonlight.livejournal.com]

But love is love! Why must we classify it? It's different yes, but there is a different bond you have with an animal that loves you unconditionally if you just love it and take care of it. You can't have that kind of bond with a human, and if you're lonely (ie. Harry in the summertime?) then that bond becomes very very important.

Also I don't think any of Harry's children or siblings died in the books. Since he you know, didn't have any (:

[That all being said, I don't think people have to be animal people, I would just like for them to recognize the importance that they can hold in their owners lives]

[(Anonymous)]

There are people who aren't animal people, but when people consider Hedwig the saddest death am I to assume they're not people people?
Doesn't matter if Fred wasn't Harry's brother or child, he was that to characters we also cared about. People can live the rest of their lives without really recovering from losing a child. I've never known anyone to have that response to losing an animal, even though it can be a very devastating loss.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm still not over the fact that someone several years ago murdered my little cat by poking a hole in her stomach and leaving her to die. Just typing this makes me want to cry. I'm tearing up. I still want that person to DIAF and to rot in hell until the universe ends. I really, truly, loved that little calico cat even though I only had her for 6 months and that's how old she was when she died. Reading beloved animal/pet deaths reminds me of this and I can't do it very well, read about them, I mean.

I have a much harder time connecting to people for various reasons and I've had a lot death (aunt/uncle mainly) in the last few years. Some of whom I was close to when I was younger. I still grieve more over my cat's death than theirs......they died of old age or disease, mainly, so it wasn't unexpected entirely and I hadn't been close to them for years.

Unlike my cat who was there for me every day, a source of joy and fun in my life, who made me smile and laugh, and never, but never, broke my trust by repeating what I'd told her (unlike various friends and relatives, god, I got trust issues...especially over that.....)

[(Anonymous)]

I like to think I'm both an animal and a people person, but I know I was far more shattered when my dog died than when my best friend's sister died. Why? because I grew up with my dog. She was practically a sister to me. She was there through the good times, through the bad times, through practically everything. I spoke to my best friend's sister occasionally and we sometimes hung out at school, and of course I'm horribly upset that she is no longer with us, but I didn't grow up with her 24/7 like I did with my dog. Does that make me a horrible person? I hope not. I hate to think the love I have for my pets makes me a cruel or horrible person, just because I'm more attached to them than people I know and occasionally peak to.

So i think it's horribly narrow-minded to say that a pet's death isn't something people grieve over for life. I'm guessing you don't know many people who own pets? I know a girl who's dog died years ago, and she still comes home with dog food before remembering her dog is no longer alive. My own sister had a cat who died a year ago and she still cries about it sometimes. Not everybody likes sharing their grief, especially if it's over a pet because they might be afraid of being ridiculed or mocked by others, but it's definitely there and many people never get over it.

For many people, a pet is a part of the family, and is far more than just something to feed, bathe and walk. They help their owners through life, they are there for their owners when they are sick (my own dog helped me through my depression and was the only reason I managed to get out of the house on some days). And they love their owners no matter what their owner looks like, what their hobbies are, what their personality is like, etc. They don't judge like people judge. And while friends might come and go, a pet will always be there for you no matter what.

[tazthelemon.livejournal.com]

I don't think it's about being a people person so much as it is about a caregiver relationship. I've never had a younger sibling or a child, but I have kept animals, and there's something profoundly different in the pain of losing someone who was entirely dependent on you versus losing somebody who was their own person.

Also - the story is from Harry's POV, so inevitably we're more likely to experience deaths the way he would. Fred was Ron's brother and Molly/Arthur's kid, but since Harry knew him only as his friend's cool brother, it's not quite as devastating in the moment.

[writerserenyty.livejournal.com]

You're not heartless at all. I've never felt that kind of bond for an animal.

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

I think the statement is more about Hedwig's love and devotion to Harry than Harry's love and devotion for Hedwig (which didn't seem to be that unusually great). But I also tilt my head in confusion at the idea of valuing a dead animal over a dead person.

[(Anonymous)]

Except Hedwig wasn't just some animal. She was Harry's pet and for a boy who didn't have much of a family, I can bet that he considered her family. That can extend to readers who feel the same way about their own pets. There are a lot of people who do consider them like their children or family. The thought of them dying can be heartbreaking.

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

Hedwig isn't just some animal to Harry. Of course not. Just as Ron Weasley isn't just "some person." But Hedwig is an animal and Ron is a person. Would it have been clearer if I had said that my confusion is over the idea of valuing a dead animal to whom you are close over a dead person to whom you are close?

I'm aware there are lots of people who consider their pets like children or family. There are also many who consider animals in a secondary class below human beings (like myself) but who can still be devastated by the loss of a pet, even if it's not to the extent that they would be devastated by the loss of a family member or very close friend. I find it very difficult to understand the first group because animals are animals and people are people, but it's not like I'd go out of my way to be a dick to people who feel that way (like the people talking about deeply mourning the loss of their pets in this thread for example).

[(Anonymous)]

You said you were confused, so I was enlightening you. To each their own. I personally find the value in a pet and person is on par and mourn the same way in each case. Anyone who passes away that I love will be sad for me. Any reminder or thought relating to it will also be sad for me. :/

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, you are.

[(Anonymous)]

There are a lot of people that consider their pets just like their children or part of the family. When they die it is a very heartbreaking moment for them.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you honestly think I'm not aware of that? I will cry buckets when my cat dies. I would want to throw myself off the nearest tall building if I lost my sister or brother.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's all relative to how much you love them. Some people love their pets more than their siblings. Therefore they'd be sadder if their pets died than their siblings. Not everyone has loving relationships with their families. Just saying.

[(Anonymous)]

I just went "You killed the owl lol are you fucking kidding me." No tears were shed no heartstrings pulled. I am the worst person.