[ SECRET POST #1732 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1732 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Troop Beverly Hills]


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03.
[Sanctuary]


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04.
[Law & Order: Criminal Intent]


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05.
(Mikael Åkerfeldt and Steven Wilson)


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06.
[FFVIII]


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07.
[Man of the House]


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08.
[Kingdom Hearts]


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09.
[Harry Potter]


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10. [repeat]


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11.
[Doctor Who]


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12.
[Bandom]


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13.
[Steve Juliano/I Am Ghost]


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14.
[WWE]


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15.
[Doctor Stephen Strange, Jon Stewart, Robert Downey Jr., Michael Palin, Reed Richards.]


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18.
[FDR/Winston Churchill]


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21.
[The Guy with the Glasses]


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22.
[Amadeus]


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23.
[Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica]


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[Alphas]


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25.
[The World Ends With You]


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[WWE]


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29.
[Homestuck]


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30.
[Doctor Who]


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31. [repeat]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]













32. [SPOILERS for Persona 4]



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33. [SPOILERS for Fallout 3]



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34. [SPOILERS for Buffy the Vampire Slayer]



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35. [SPOILERS for Leviathan]



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36. [SPOILERS for Pokemon Special]



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37. [SPOILERS for A Song of Ice and Fire]



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38. [SPOILERS for A Storm of Swords]



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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]















39. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual assault]



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40. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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41. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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42. [TRIGGER WARNING for anti-trans violence]

[Khaos Komix]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #247.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 (suicide trigger) - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

29. http://i56.tinypic.com/ifztd2.png
[Homestuck]

[(Anonymous)]

are there people that insist she's canon bi or something? I haven't seen it, but I try to stay away. I agree with most of your sentiments -- yay, a lesbian character who's defining characteristic isn't a lesbian it's almost like gay people are exactly like straight people who would have thought. I don't particularily mind if people change her orientation for shipping -- that's all just fun and games, but do they really think she's...not a lesbian?

[(Anonymous)]

regardless of when hussie said that she is an unmistakeably gay character, there really are people who think she's bisexual and just has a "kink" for girls, and she still would get with a male character.

it's actually kind of disheartening tbh.

[insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com]

Then there's the question as to if that only means her concupiscent quadrants or all of them. I admit I'm one of these, because I totally ship Kanaya Karkat.

Though as far as those concupiscent quadrants go, she likes girls, yeah.

The widely debated line is that trolls don't recognize homosexuality. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, just that they don't have a word for it. Humans would recognize it, so it matters to us.

[(Anonymous)]

It's more predominant on tumblr, as far as I've seen. The most obvious is the manchild behind all the John/Karkat hate, but there are others.

[nightfireblaze.livejournal.com]

I don't think it helps that she is willing to jump into a romantic relationship with one or two guys. Being ashen isn't one of the sexual troll romances, but now people are going to question her sexuality because she may be bi-romantic or whatever the proper word to describe this is.

[(Anonymous)]

And now this is making me wonder if it's possible (or maybe even probable) to have different gender preferences for different quadrants.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure she's only a lesbian in the human sense - so her fetish would lead her to seek exclusively female matesprits. I don't think she was ever supposed to be gay in all four quadrants, because then it would have been more of a big deal to the other trolls.

[(Anonymous)]

>the one character who is not heterosexual in any way
>after admitting 11/16 characters are bisexual

i do not think those words mean what you think they mean

[(Anonymous)]

I think OP means "completely homosexual" when they say not heterosexual.

[tenebrais.livejournal.com]

You don't think people attracted to both sexes are attracted to the opposite sex?

Opinions may differ on whether bisexuality counts as both hetero- and homosexual or neither, but given the phrasing it's pretty clear what she meant.

[(Anonymous)]

As long as you people consider it acceptable to seat John atop Karkat/Dave/Eridan's flagpole, I reserve the right to ship Kanaya with any male I please.

Sexuality doesn't become a non-object only in certain instances.

[(Anonymous)]

It is completely and totally fine to ship whatever you want, however you want. However, I get the feeling you're overlooking homosexual erasure.

[(Anonymous)]

you can ship kanaya with a dude if you want to, no one's saying you can't because you definitely can. but i have always been under the impression that you should recognize that kanaya is canonically a lesbian.

[seven-costanza.livejournal.com]

I've started to read Homestuck a few times before and these types of secrets always just make me wonder if all these characters are really as deep and "complex" as everyone likes to portray them, or if this is just another case of people taking shit too seriously.

[flutingfrenzy.livejournal.com]

Can't it be both?

[insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com]

Hahah nope. Basically, Troll society is culturally bisexual. This is covered very briefly in comic.

As with many things, the fandom went batshit crazy over the implications, on pretty much all sides.

We do know for a fact the troll OP mentioned has only sought out ladies for redrom romance, and Andrew says that while troll culture doesn't have a word for it, Human's would recognize Kanaya as a lesbian.

This of course led to several factions arguing over technical definitions. Admittedly, looking above, I'm one of them. What I'm not is taking this half as seriously as far too many people are doing, since it's ultimately as relevant to the storyline as John liking ghostbusters.

[vethica.livejournal.com]

See, this is what I personally don't like about Kanaya being confirmed lesbian.
- Almost entirely bi/pan society
- First character (I believe) in the comic who shows romantic interest in someone of the same gender
- Said character is immediately confirmed straight-up gay

Combine that with the fact that we've seen a lot of opposite-sex relationships among trolls and relatively few same-sex ones, and... I'm just not taken with Homestuck's treatment of the topic. :( So I guess it is bigger than just Kanaya for me, wow anyway, I do not ship her with any guys if that helps. (I am quite fond of Spaceshipping though.)

[miezen.livejournal.com]

I have to agree with you on this. I find it pretty sad that the trolls are allegedly all bisexual, but the first one that we see going for the same sex is confirmed to be a lesbian rather than bi. Then we don't see any other same sex attraction for quite some time. Was there anything between Kanaya showing interest in girls and that Gamzee/Tavros thing? I don't seem to remember any. Well, unless you count Vriska kinda looking like she was somewhat into Kanaya, too, IIRC? But then she proved to be more interested in Tavros. Sigh.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, clearly, the solution is to draw and write a shit-ton of Kanaya/ladies and pimp it like woah. :D Fight ignorance with femslash!

BTW, that is a very pretty picture and I'm kind of love with it. I've only searched for Homestuck fanart very sporadically, but I had never found a portrayal of Kanaya that I was satisfied with until I saw the picture in your secret, which I think is super awesome and portrays the elegance and dignity that I always associated with Kanaya's character. Would you happen to have a link to it? Please?

[vethica.livejournal.com]

Here you go! (http://lazylaz.tumblr.com/post/9691166868/)

[insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com]

NSFW.

And less pimpking kanaya so much as PIMPNAYA. But probably work a chuckle and semi-relevant.

http://pimpventures.tumblr.com/tagged/the%20pimpventures%20of%20pimpnaya/chrono

[(Anonymous)]

woah it's been awhile since I've seen one of THESE secrets.
I think it's a new record.

[(Anonymous)]

I totally agree with this. Why can't people ship the rest of the girls with boys, but let us have our lesbian?

Then again, I am not the chief of the Shipping Police. People can ship who they want to. It's just disappointing to see the fandom's one solid source of femslash fly out the window.

[(Anonymous)]

Not that it will, though. ^