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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-12 07:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #1744 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1744 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[tinker tailor soldier spy]


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03.
[Pokemon]


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04.
[Disgaea 2]


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05.
[Reborn]


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06.
[Yahtzee/Cinema Snob]


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07.
[Fruits Basket]


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08.
[Sherlock]


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09.
[Teahouse]


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10.
[Glee]


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11.
[Law & Order: Special Victims Unit]


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12.
[Jem]


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13.
[Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII]


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14.
[Sherlock (BBC)]


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15.
[Kingdom Hearts]


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16.
[Reba]


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17.
[South Park/Black Dagger Brotherhood]


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18.
[Society]


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19.
[Paris Hilton/Baccano!!]


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20.
[Paranoia Agent]


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21.
[HIMYM]


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22.
[American Beauty]


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23.
(Phantom of the Opera/Ramin Karimloo/Hadley Fraser/Sierra Boggess)


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24. [repeat]


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25.
[Card Captor Sakura]


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26.
[Steve Jobs]


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27.
(adventure time)


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28.
[Supernatural]


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29.
[Owl City]


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30.
[Game of Thrones]


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31.
[The Phantom of the Opera 25th Anniversary edition]


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32.
[Glee]


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33.
[HP]


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34.
[HP]


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35.
[Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality]


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36.
[HP]


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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for miscarriage, depression]

[HP]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 094 secrets from Secret Submission Post #248.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 (yes, AGAIN) - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
22. http://i.imgur.com/XPFyE.jpg
[American Beauty]

(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
no shit sherlock.

[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
American Beauty was the biggest fucking double standard ever. Kevin Spacey's all fed up with his marriage, so when he decides to get a shitty job and fuck a high-schooler, it's presented as this inevitable, character-developing rebellion against the world. meanwhile, Annette Benning, who is equally fed up with her marriage and her life, goes through the motions at her shitty job and fucks a co-worker and it's presented as this ridiculous, OTT comedy. lol! he wants her to call him The King!

the fact that, in the end, Spacey has a flashback where it turns out that, aww, he really loved his wife the whole time, and that's supposed to redeem him for being a stupid asshole, really brings the double standard home.

tl;dr - Annette Benning was the only sympathetic character in American Beauty.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
THIS!!!

+1

(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Well fucking said.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
x10000000000

[identity profile] homette.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
fuck that
she was a cheap shit character and people would have hated spacey's character if he wasn't awesome
she was just being a crazy bitch
ya ok maybe she was going through the same shit and acting the same way - the only difference was that she was fucking unlikable

[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
maybe she was fucking unlikable because that was the way the movie was scripted and filmed

oh yeah spacey's awesome he totally told those guys at the mcdonald's and that gay dude next door and that asparagus plate goddamn

my point is that that's unfair and if you're gonna be that lazy then everyone in that movie is a cheap shit character except spacey because he is the only one who matters because he is the only one alan ball gave a shit about

typing like this is kind of cathartic ngl

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[identity profile] marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. Everything in this comment. I think the movie wanted us to be all, 'uh, yay, pedophilia'? What was he going to do when he had to walk to every door in his suburban hell and say 'hey, I'm a sexual predator, just thought you ought to know', and left?

Annette's not a great person, but he's much, much worse. Even his daughter managed to realize that.
ext_405598: (you have pleased sansa)

*APPLAUSE*

[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
fucking hardcore amazing amazing word

I HATE THAT MOVIE

(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
On one hand, I get where you're coming from. But in a real-life scenario, I'd have to say you sound pretty immature and narrow-minded. Relationships, and especially marriages, take work. And in most cases, no one person is 100 percent at fault for a relationship stalling out or failing. There are multiple sides to every scenario, and failure to grasp that concept and practice empathy is what causes relationships to crumble more than anything.

Yes, from the narrow scope we were given in the movie, she came off as a shrew. But if that had been a real life relationship, you can bet that there were events and failings on his part as well that at least contributed to their communication breakdown, and ultimately to her shutting off from the relationship. If she was just a class A bitch through and through, why would he have married her in the first place?

tl;dr - real life relationships and marriages are never that cut and dried. And if you really believe they are, then your future failed relationships will be your own fault.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
1. no shit.

2. you obviously haven't seen the movie if this is hat you got out of it.

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[identity profile] marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
This, absolutely. He never owned to his own mistakes and if throwing a plate of food at a wall is portrayed as a positive thing, there is something seriously rotten in Denmark.

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tl;dr

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"If she was just a class A bitch through and through, why would he have married her in the first place?"
It may have escaped your notice, but people change. Also when you're in love, you tend to overlook little annoying things about that person which overwhelm their personality over time.

"real life relationships and marriages are never that cut and dried"
Except for, like, abusive ones or something? (but women are never abusive !! It's always the guy, isn't it?)

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[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I felt sorry for him.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Was it really a breakdown? I got the feeling the movie wanted to portray it as a journey to self-discovery rather than a breakdown.

Idk, haven't seen this movie in YEARS.

[identity profile] la-petite-singe.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
...Methinks you missed the point.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
completely ot, but...omg your icon. <3

[identity profile] twilightedge.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Mmm orange soda.

This is the second secret about this movie I've seen in a month or so. I think I'll have to watch it.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree

(Anonymous) 2011-10-13 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought that the first time but the second time I watched it when I was about 10 years older I had a lot more sympathy for her. I mean, she suddenly has all the stress of being the sole breadwinner with a morgage to pay off, her husband sides with her daughter against her, disses the meal she cooks and acts like he's gone off his rocker...I felt so sorry for her.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-14 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
When I first watched it, I thought "omg she's horrible" whenever she was with her family. I actually really liked her when she hooked up with that other real estate guy. She seemed much happier and more ~alive around him than she did with Lester. I actually felt bad for her when it was clearly over between them. I'd like to think she grieved for Lester, then worked on her relationship with Janey, focused more on real estate, and ended up happy.

In the end, both seemed like good people with issues, but it would've been a completely different story if they acknowledged they couldn't be together anymore and got separated in the beginning.

[identity profile] arcadiaego.livejournal.com 2011-10-13 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they both had reasonable grievances. If he hadn't, you know, got shot, they might have got divorced and had happier second marriages, or worked through their midlife crises and stayed together, who knows.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-20 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
If you use the word "shrew" you are a misogynistic shit bag. What the fuck is this, the 17th century? I hope you step on a rake.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-21 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This movie is still one of my most favourite ones because I watched it during a terrible time in my life and it awakened the love for Life in me again. I am eternally grateful for this movie. And the portrayal the actors managed to deliver.

Speaking as someone over 30 - his steps were extreme but his overall reason - being egoistic for once - is actually a good thing within a partership. It keeps the partnership healthy and interesting. (all in good measure of course)

His insight that life is beautiful and that all the rush after money is not as much worth as being happy and feeling in tune with yourself - quite true as well. He stepped out of the rat race and faced extremly harsh reactions for that.

Something she couldn't do because she was narrow-minded (or lost her original sense for life over the years) and was too caught up in petty absolutely irrelevant matters. What I hated about her most was that she regarded him as "the" problem while never once questioning herself and her role in their life (of misery). Her only way of rebellion was to behave like a trashy whore who then couldn't step up to her deed nor her "liason" when faced with her husband. (I always say, if you can't take the heat for cheating then just don't cheat!) I hate people who act like this - with no sense for consequences, egoistical but yet feeling and acting like a fucking victim.

Anyway, I love the ending. Again - he makes a choice - being happy and grateful. And filled with love. No matter what happened before. None of the other character reached that sense of tranquillity.