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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-23 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1755 ]

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I confess I don't subscribe to the opinion you need to fap at all so.......

That explains a lot. You poor, poor thing.

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It also explains a lot about you that you've subscribed so easily to the media's rubbishly overhyped view of 'NEED SEX'.

No, you don't need to jack off to some words on ff.net or get laid twice a day. Nothing bad happens to you if you don't dude..........

NEWSFUH-LASH

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I also pity you for being ashamed enough to be in that much denial, TBH (and if my guess is right, religious conditioning is likely to blame). Hating yourself for having a very natural desire just because you've been raised by pious nutjobs to think it's evil, dirty, or sinful can't be healthy.

[identity profile] baka-deshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Or they could legitimately have a low sex drive. It is true that not everyone wants sex. (Still doesn't mean that the rest of the world has been brainwashed into having erections by "the media", though.)

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
That doesn't explain their being against porn existing for everyone else to enjoy, though.

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Like I told some other guy, take (modern) philosophy.

Arguments that porn infantilizes people or their perception and similar things are quite common, even without religious backing. Fair enough if you don't agree with philosophers' analysis of it but it's not like there aren't well-educated scholars who debate ethics and such who think it does more harm than good.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I have, actually. And I personally think that even if they don't cite religion outright, religious conditioning against sex (that it's amoral and dirty unless you're actively trying to have a baby) is so pervasive in the Western world at least that they're subscribing to it whether they realize it or not. There's a baseline level of negativity towards sex that simply accepted as "okay."

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
omfg talk about conditioning LMFAO.

Sex is good - between a man and his wife. Otherwise it has no need to be happening.

Awaiting the feminists being mad I said 'his'.

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[identity profile] baka-deshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Engh. You can make an argument that most forms of media can negatively impact social norms and behavior -- I'm not sure why sexual entertainment must always be singled out first. Personally I'm much more concerned about normalizing violence.

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh trust me I roll my eyes just as much whenever cop shows have LET'S SHOOT LIKE 20 GUYS AND NO CONSEQUENCES YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH as when the lead hooks up with some chick whose actress can only make SCREW ME DARLING faces.

I don't like the overuse of violence either and the fact most of the time, it's never shown to have any consequences, if you're the 'good guy'. I think that's stupid as mess.

I may have picked out their deluded view of sex (notice how nobody who sleeps around ever seems to contract an STD unless your name is Charlie Harper and your actor pissed your boss off lololol) for this argument but I have just as many issues with their view of half a dozen other things too.

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Not in denial.

rofl dude the vast majority of religion doesn't teach SEX IS SINFUL, they teach the conditions desired prior to having sex. The emphasis is on how SPECIAL and SACRED it is, something the media lacks with how casually they toss it around.

Your life, I'm not telling you how to live but.. to even claim RELIGIOUS CONDITIONING GRRRR YOU HATE SEX AND THINK IT'S EVIL. No. lol. I think sex has a place and that place isn't everywhere.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Mentioning "the bible" in your interests combined with the typical religious right-wing nutjob rhetoric you've spewed all over in this thread betrays you, I'm afraid.

And actually, many religions (at least of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic model) teach that sex is only a tool for procreation. If you derive any pleasure from it at all, it's defilement, and a vile, horrible sin. This goes double if you're a woman.

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it betrays me since I never claimed otherwise.

Ummmm are you basing that statement off what you heard from your religion-hating internet friends or facts about the ninth century??
It sort of says right in the Bible sex is intended to be enjoyed between one man and one woman in their marriage. It's.. not a bad thing, sorry. I wasn't raised to believe that, simply that there is something special about it and the overdone Hollywood ideals of sex are nonsense.

You don't fly into a raging fit at everyone if you don't orgasm for a month, sorry. Myth busted.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, I heard that at mass every week for the first 16 years of my life that I was forced to attend. Just studying the Bible doesn't give you anywhere near an accurate picture of religion's attitude toward sex, because a lot of what's in the book (which is already misogynistic as hell) gets warped even moreso once it's filtered through a sermon.

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh well I heard something different at my church so...

I do have some issues with how Catholics have taken things and think they aren't quite right. The whole BC thing? Errr yeah might've missed the mark there.

But, Catholicism =/= the other denominations of Christianity by a long shot. P sure most of them just take the "don't have sex before marriage your virginity is a special thing to give to your spouse" standpoint which is more accurate.

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
What the fuck kind of priest talks about sex at ever single Sunday Mass? Let alone, to specifically say it is evil and dirty (which would be him specifically preaching in opposition to what the Church itself says: I mean, I can quote you the Catechism of the Catholic Church, if you like, to prove that the Catholic position is almost identical to what SaturnOnWhatever is saying). I don't think I've ever heard a Catholic priest mention sex during mass, at all: that tends to be discussed in smaller groups that don't include small children, if at all. And, at least in my church, if he started saying what you said he said, which would be completely in opposition to the Church dogma, there are people in the parish who would confront him with his error.

So basically, either you're completely bullshitting, or your parents took you to some culty church that wasn't in communion with the Catholic Church. Was it SSPX? Or one of those bizarre American Churches that call themselves "Catholic Church of America" and suchlike, then basically do whatever they want?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Go to bed, [livejournal.com profile] fpb.

[identity profile] baka-deshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I can't tell if you're a brilliant troll or just not that interested in sex.

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It's always fun to troll the scrubs who have no argument except WHY YOU JUDGE MY PORN CONTENT?!?!

But the latter is true also. I've gone by sans sex so far and I am clearly not a serial killing psychopath nor an obese recluse. So.. just not that interested.

herp derp my lj name lololololo

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
livejournal is gay so are you LOL
hi i'm yeti and i have raped everyone dry.


You sure do sound like an obese recluse tbh

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
lol you went creepin on my lj. I trust you realized this thing was created to get some hyucks with my friends? I would sure hope the over-the-topness of this whole thing clued you in.

Nope not obese or a recluse. Actually a size 0 C:

[identity profile] baka-deshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that it matters what anyone looks like on the internet anyway. I think at this point we're all equally trolling.

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[identity profile] lulzatyou.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, people who truly aren't interested in sex can't be arsed to give this much of a shit about what others fap to. My guess is they were raised by religious wingnuts of some stripe or another, because those are the only people I've ever encountered who are this militantly anti-porn.

[identity profile] saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Take philosophy champ, there are people who are anti-porn on all sides of the spectrum of beliefs and philosophical standpoints. It's not just EXTREMISTS PRAISE BE TO ALLAH :U

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, I have zero sex drive and the only time I get defensive on topics related to country matters is when people's rights are being violated. Otherwise I couldn't really care less. This person is just trollin.