[ SECRET POST #1788 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1788 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Avril Lavigne; Miho Fukuhara; Supercell]


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[Assassin's Creed]


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[Puss In Boots]


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[Mortal Kombat]


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[Greek Myths (Hermes), Allstate (Mayhem)]


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24. [SPOILERS for modern warfare 3]



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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for pedophilia]

[Chrono Crusade]


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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for incest]



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[House]

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #255.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

i like it a lot better now the -ists and -phobes are scared off or dogpiled

[(Anonymous)]

Except people still get dogpiled if they accidentally say a slur or something that might baguely resemble a slur if you squint. And are rarely given the chance to apologize before people start calling them names, schooling them for being wrong, and insulting their upbringing. Then the mods come in with their patronizing tags.

[(Anonymous)]

accidental slurs are still slurs

it's nice to have a place where people give less of a fuck about the offender than the people they ignorantly offended

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but accidental and intentional slurs are not the same level of fail, and they should not be responded to in the same way. Now, I think that a harsh reaction from someone who was offended is completely understandable. But when people respond to accidental slurs as if the person is a horrible human being who meant to slur and dogpile on that person even after they have explained that the slur was accidental, I wonder if that person has ever accidentally said something offensive (because most of us have at one point or another).

Basically, I think that at fanficrants, people treat accidental and intentional slurs like they are the same thing and like the people who post them are the same kinds of people, and that simply isn't true.

[(Anonymous)]

why do i have to give a shit that some overprivileged dirtbag got their fee-fees hurt?

they have an obligation to learn instead of ignorantly dropping slurs

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

[danubee.livejournal.com]

"Except people still get dogpiled if they accidentally say a slur or something that might baguely resemble a slur if you squint."

This so much.

Or even if you say you don't like slash. (Don't ever tell them you don't like slash. It means your a homoophobe. Doesn't matter how many gay friends you have or how well an ally you are in supporting gay rights--no, all that's important is that you like fictional gay men boning each other.)

[(Anonymous)]

All your comments on this thread are ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS, especially since my LJ note for you says "homophobic, also: asshole".

Protip: having gay friends or "supporting gay rights" (and how exactly have you done that? Have you voted for pro-equality legislation? Participated in marches or non-profits? Donated money to equality groups? Or just made a few comments on internet forums?) doesn't mean that you're not a homophobe, just as having friends of a different race doesn't necessarily make you not a racist.

FYI, I'm a woman, and I don't like m/m slash at all. I only read het and f/f slash. And all your comments in ffr definitely made me think you're a homophobe, and a jerk, enough that I took the time to give you a LJ note. I'm sure you'll just ignore this comment and think "I'm right, everyone is wrong, why are they so mean to meeeee," but I figure I'd try anyway. Ponder that.

How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

Not just you, but every social justice warrior on the net. I mean, if someone says "You're just lame, hon" and someone nearby turns into a tower of frothing rage, guess who everyone is going to think is crazy? Most people don't give a rat's ass about a lot of these "slurs," and I do wonder if life is hard for all of you without a dozen equally offended LJ users to jump to your defense. Must be difficult.

(But really, you can have the internet. Police away. I'll just take my "slurs" to the real world where no one cares.)

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

THIS IS THE LANGUAGE POLICE, WE HAVE YOU SURROUNDED. "Crazy" is an ableist slur! Come out with your hands up!

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

Are you me?

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, asshole, maybe part of why they get so frothingly angry about it online is because they know in real life no one cares, and they know they could never tell someone to quit using slurs or saying other hateful shit in front of them all the time because they'd get told to just "chill out" and "quit taking things so seriously"

Maybe that's part of the problem and proof of how ingrained things like ableism are in society.

But, I mean. Take your slurs to the real world. Pat yourself on the back and shake your head at those crazy disabled people and their silly thin skin. And keep thinking you're just an undeserving victim of a bunch of uncalled for outrage, or whatever the fuck kind of self-martyring excuse you give yourself for being an ableist jerk.

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

ABLEISSSSSST

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

oh hi Theo

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

"Pat yourself on the back and shake your head at those crazy disabled people and their silly thin skin."

Except that's not the way the real world works, and that's not how people really think. Trust me, in the real world, you KNOW when someone's intentions are oppressive, and when they aren't. 99 times out of a hundred, it has N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with what they SAY, or with little pet words the Newspeak SJ Warriors have deemed to be "double plus ungood."

But talk to me when you actually ARE disabled...by society's perceptions of you, NOT by whatever physical differences you may have from teh purty ppl on teh teevee. THAT oppression? Starts from the cradle, and goes to the grave with you, you ignorant TAB little "Disabiity Studies" major. Sure, things are (marginally) better than they were in 1981, but the UN declaring that "The Year of the Disabled" had little to do with that, except for the fact that it kept the social workers distracted.

I've fought enough social workers in my lifetime who wanted me to sit down, shut up, and be the good little useless, helpless, cripple and stay on welfare benefits for the rest of my life, to recognize that oppression when I see it. The SJ Warriors are a prime example of the same attitude displayed towards those they are ostensibly trying to "help."

As long as you played within the rules, did what you were told, and didn't try to improve your station in life beyond the sub-class of society the social workers wanted to keep you in, you would be everybody's pet "consumer." The minute you start questioning the status quo, all bets are off, and the very people who are supposed to be "helping" you WILL turn on a dime, and turn on you, for being "difficult" or "recalcitrant" or other PC terms for "ill-behaved prisoner who keeps trying to escape."

Because MY crip self getting an education, getting a job, and then progressing on towards HAVING A CAREER (regardless of how long it took me) makes all those whiners and whingers with "bad backs" or "I'm too depressed to work" or "I've got X/Y/Z disease that isn't recognized by medical science yet but I'm REALLY REALLY SICK see, look, here's my bingo card of all the "disabilities" I think I have!"look like they shouldn't be freeloading off the overburdened taxpayer-funded social services system (which has more problems than just the freeloaders, I realize that). Which means the social workers would have less clients to "help" milk the system of said funds, in the first place.

Never mind the fact that all the "programs" that ostensibly exist to get people OFF of the welfare rolls are little more than revolving-door holding tanks, that exist for the "facilitators" to make a fast buck off of, not to actually be of any benefit whatsoever.

TL;DR: These Orwellian Newspeak people are really getting on my nerves, yo.

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

If it's any consolation, this disabled person agrees with you completely. I have much bigger things to get angry over than a word that is so divorced from its previous ableist usage that the only people who give a shit about it are pedantic sfd_anon trolls.

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

http://ffr-discussion.livejournal.com/17570.html

Please do take note of the disabled people explaining that yes, some disabled people actually are hurt by that word and don't like seeing it used.

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

Same here. Like I said above, I'd be willing to bet the majority of people who kick up a fuss about so-called ableist words aren't in any way disabled or handicapped themselves. I don't know how many people have gone off at me (online and irl) for using words like "lame" even though I walk with a fucking cane.

If hearing someone say "lame" is all you've got to worry about, you've got it pretty fucking good. Try entering a building that doesn't have a ramp when you can barely lift your leg an inch off the ground without great pain/weakness, try getting stuck in the middle of a store with extreme pain and needing someone to carry you out of the store like a fucking baby, try wanting to go for a simple trip to the corner store and having to plan out every minor detail of the trip just in case your disability causes you to fall/injure yourself/embarrass yourself/get stuck on the ground for extended periods of time/etc

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

I'll tell you how they cope. They become social workers. And start doing this IN REAL LIFE to/for the people they are supposed to be "helping" --- who neither want, need, nor even deserve their toxic, oppressive, infantilising brand of "support."

If someone can get this through to these little teeny-boppers before they actually, grow up, go out, and BECOME these all-powerful bastions of vile, hateful evil, well then. The whole SJ thing will have had ONE positive effect.

Re: How do you even cope in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

These are the same kind of people who want to tell me that I'm ablist if I refuse to describe myself as "differently abled" because quibbling over ridiculous-sounding phrases is more important than me being allowed the dignity of calling myself whatever I want.

[(Anonymous)]

Did you happen to miss that a lot of actual bigots, no question about it, are still in fan fic rants? They're not getting chased off unless they do something incredibly stupid like PMing the mods or deleting, and then they get banned.

Meanwhile, a bunch of the people getting dogpiled out of the community (leaving by choice because it's too hostile) have Asperger's or ESL and the reason they got dogpiled out is because of saying, "I'm sorry, I won't use that word any more" in a way that wasn't written exactly according to fan fic rant's community standards.

Fan fic rants is very discriminatory towards Asperger's and ESL.

When the community standards are so high that people who get viewed as oversensitive SJ warriors on 99% of the rest of the internet get viewed as bigots on fan fic rants, something is wrong.

It's also wrong that these community standards aren't written anywhere, but newbies are supposed to simply absorb them by watching lots of dogpiles and sorting through the mod tags before ever commenting for the first time (but that isn't written down anywhere either).

If it really was about getting rid of the bigots I'd be with it. It's not about that, and don't fool yourself that it is. It's about making people from every disadvantaged group feel that they, themselves, are the bigots unless they modify their words to these incredibly high standards.

Because these standards are higher than most feminist blogs, activist websites and the like, they catch people by surprise.

When people are surprised that "stupid" and "lame" and "crazy" and "politically correct" are all considered slurs, they are told they should not have been surprised because this is what is expected of all non-bigoted people, and explaining politely to newcomers instead of dogpiling is too hard and makes things all about the bigot's hurt feelings instead of the slurred group's hurt feelings.

This happens even when newbies say they are sorry and agree never to use those words again.

Because of this set-up with the nearly-secret community standards that are way higher than expected and most attempts to apologize are seen as renewed attacks, the community is guaranteed to face constant ongoing crises and require lots of defense from resident SJ warriors.

Members are socially rewarded for dogpiling, dogpiling is used as entertainment, and there is a lot of back-patting about running off all the bigots even when some obvious bigots are still around and some rather innocuous people who apologized profusely were run off.

[(Anonymous)]

Fan fic rants is very discriminatory towards Asperger's

You do realize that one of the most vocal SJ warriors on fanficrants has Asperger Syndrome? So your argument about ffr being discriminating towards people with AS doesn't hold any weight.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Mind identifying yourself then?

[(Anonymous)]

Any community that requires very precise wordings and rejects any apologies not worded exactly that way is discriminating against Asperger's, just like any building with a bunch of steps and no wheelchair ramp is discriminating against anyone who happens to be in a wheelchair.

That's like saying the architect for the building who struck off the wheelchair ramp from the building plans weren't being discriminatory because she's in a wheelchair. Nope, don't matter. If your making it harder for your own kind, don't matter where that hardness comes from. Any origin of hardness hurts just the same. Putting burdens on people who don't want more.

Besides, everyone who gioes there knows there are still plenty of bigots there. Doesn't matter what categories people is in. They can be very discriminatory all the same.

[(Anonymous)]

lol self-diagnosed over the internet isn't legit, nonnie. Theo isn't autistic, he's just fat.