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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-22 07:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #1815 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1815 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
9 needs a trigger warning for self-harm/cutting.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
can I get a trigger warning for people asking for trigger warnings? Seriously, every time I see someone "waaaaah"-ing over this I get these uncontrollable feelings of rage and despair, and then it makes me intensely depressed and want to get drunk. The requests for trigger warnings are triggering me. Oh what to do, what to do.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
lolol this.
ext_81845: penelope, my art/character (cool story bro)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
So basically you just don't give a shit about other people and how they might be distressed over something that doesn't bother you specifically, because of a mental illness you don't happen to have. Must be awesome to be so mentally healthy and shit all over other people that aren't.

Though I agree that there's no point in putting a warning in front of an image anyone would see if they scroll past. A cut would work better

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
actually, and in all seriousness, I'm pretty much a mental fucking wreck and have several triggers that cause genuine and serious flashbacks and panic attacks. Its a rare day that goes by where I don't get triggered by something, in seriousness and without flippancy. However, it is my mental health, and I will face those problems and continue to improve and recover. I acknowledge, as part of my recovery, that others are not responsible for my mental health and that wanting everything conveniently labelled so I can hide will only make my problems worse. Recovering means facing those triggers, getting triggered, and accepting responsibility for over coming the effects.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I just want to commend you, anon. This is what I wish more people would do. I also have severe triggers but I work through them and I don't freak out when I'm not warned. It's about getting over it and working your way through it.

[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
do you also acknowledge as part of your recovery that what works for you does not necessarily work for others, and that others may be at different stages in their recovery process?

because if not, you might want to think about that.
ext_81845: the character ray person from generation kill, squinting and smiling/smirking (yeah... no.)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
That's great, quit trying to dictate what others should do just because your particular therapy worked for you.

It's like, I might have the same illness as someone else but the same meds won't work on both of us. Everyone is fucking different, acknowledge that and empathize

[identity profile] kryptoncat.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding this.

Also, trigger warnings should not be that big a deal for people they don't apply to. It's like when you go in a haunted house or stand in line on for a roller coaster and see the exit signs and/or staff members who escort people out who need to leave. You can still have your fun, and the people who aren't having fun can go somewhere else.

In short, making things better for everyone is commendable and necessary.

[identity profile] bleed-peroxide.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Shut the fuck up with the whole "bawww trigger for triggers" horse shit. You're being sarcastic, and it's not necessary. Just because you might not get triggered by anything all that easily doesn't mean you have the right to be an insensitive prick and shit all over those that are still working past certain triggers.

Yeah, I don't get easily triggered by cutting unless the imagery is intense. Does that mean I have the right to disregard the fact that others are? Fuck no. Just because a person might not be bothered by numbers doesn't mean that I won't avoid them like the plague to avoid falling into that mindset again. Not everyone's minds work the same.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
lol what's even the point. even if they look at the warning, they'll probably still accidentally glance at the dude's mutilated back. and it's not like the secret really says anything more descriptive than "I would cut myself all over". Does anyone actually get triggered by someone just saying "I'd cut myself" and that's it? If that's enough to set you off, maybe you should look into getting some serious help

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
oh no, you said "I'd cut myself", you've gone and triggered me. I have to cut myself now, and I mean really cut myself, well, not with a knife or anything, but I'll get a sharpie and draw lines and then it'll be like I cut myself and that would be terrible. That is how fragile i am, you've driven me to almost, nerely, maybe, possibly, might, disfigure my arms with a sharpie. That's how bad this affects me, I hope you're happy!1!!one! I'll have to wash it off before my mom and dad see it of course. Why won't anyone thing of the triggers!

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
-can't respond because I'm in the hospital because you said the world "cut"-
ext_81845: the character ray person from generation kill, squinting and smiling/smirking (yeah... no.)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
maybe you should look into getting some serious help

No shit, Sherlock. Because anyone who needs mental health care in this country can get it that easily, right?

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yes Watson they can, the NHS covers psychiatric in-care, out-patient counselling, and a variety of different care needs in the mental health field. This country has great mental health care options. There is always room for improvement of course, but on the whole it's pretty easy and stress free. Its not like we're some shitty third world wannabe where people are forced to choose between eating or good health. That'd be a nasty and evil place to live.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
And that's assuming that the first anon even lives in the same country you seem to think they do...

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[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
uh am I missing the part where this paragraph you have just written has anything to do with asking for a fucking trigger warning

because as far as I can tell you are being a gigantic baby about something that does not affect you in the slightest

(Anonymous) 2011-12-24 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
Errr, I waited nearly two years for talking therapy on the NHS, because they don't have funding to hire more people in the mental health unit, because in all the targets people complain about, there are literally only like two targets that speak to mental health services. If you get judged by your targets, why would you spend precious resources on something that doesn't meet them? But yeah, if it's just the drugs you want, or even low level counselling for mostly-functioning people who need a couple of sessions, that's easily available. In depth CBT for a non-dangerous person who cannot function properly due to issues that need therapy? You have to wait for 29 other people to be 'cured' first.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
uhh well if they aren't able to get help and they are also incredibly delicate, then this part of the internet is probably not the best place to be, for their sake. especially since trigger warnings are optional here.

[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
jesus christ, someone wrote eight words requesting a trigger warning. why do you give a fuck what triggers someone anyway?

this isn't about omg cutting, it's about how you anons are spending waaaaaaaaay more time and effort whining about this than the triggered person you're making fun of.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
why do you give a fuck what somebody responds to somebody requesting a trigger warning?

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(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
What makes you so sure they aren't?

Seriousy, are you trying to suggest that people shouldn't be on the internet at all if they're not recovered yet? Because that's kind of BS.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm saying they need to be a lot more choosy about where they go, and accept that accidental triggers will happen. And they also need to accept that when an accidental trigger happens, that although their first instinct is to curl up and hide or demand a warning or even resort to old behaviours, what they need to do is accept the shock and work through it. Because each time you get accidentally triggered and work through it, the shock next time is less.

Your well meaning advice about how to make it all nice and safe is making it worse. Reality doesn't work like that.

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[identity profile] bleed-peroxide.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and with attitudes like yours, it's REALLY easy to admit that you are that easily triggered and help. Believe it or not, yeah, some people can see a scratched up back like that and think, "Wow, I really miss [insert action here], I really need to do that," and spiral right back into it.

Not to mention that health care can be a pain in the ass to try getting/affording, depending on where you live.