[ SECRET POST #1816 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1816 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Mia Rose]


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[Les Miserables]


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[Cinderella Monogatari]


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[Merlin]


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[Chuck]


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[Predator]


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[Silent Hill]


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[Angel]


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[Rooster Teeth]


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[Doctor Who]


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[Fall Out Boy/Patrick Stump and TGWTG/Luke Mochrie]


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[Phelous]


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[Uncharted]


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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #258.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

I just want there to be an important lead female on the show. Sci-fi doesn't need another show about two dudes being dudes and occasionally there's a pretty lady for an episode or two. A secondary character (like Mickey) who only appears in a supporting role sometimes doesn't appeal to me. Similarly, I like Rory, but he's very much still secondary to Amy. I don't mind the idea of a male companion in addition to an important female companion, but I don't want only a guy.

If the Doctor was ever a woman, that'd be different, but I suspect chances of that are much lower than the chances of a male companion.

[got_swagger]

Not to mention that if it was a primary male companion with a girlfriend, it's almost a guarantee that the girlfriend won't have agency of her own and her entire life will be about the boyfriend. No thank you.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

lol yeah let's all take a second to imagine how much fandom would just love female-Rory or female-Mickey. Lawd.

[got_swagger]

Every episode reaction would go thusly:

*Girlfriend's Name* is SO CLINGLY & USELESS! The Doctor and *Companion's Name* just need to drop her off on a planet or something and go be bros so that the show is more interesting, LOL.

Only, knowing Doctor Who fandom & fandom in general, it'd be a lot more gross than that.

[(Anonymous)]

*Girlfriend's Name* is SO CLINGLY & USELESS! The Doctor and *Companion's Name* just need to drop her off on a planet or something and go be bros so that the show is more interesting, LOL.

Er...wasn't that the attitude given towards Mickey? Ditch him so Ten/Rose could go off and be all shippy?

[(Anonymous)]

But it would hardly be for the entire show like say Supernatural where the whole theme is literally "bros before hoes" (ick). It would just be for a season. Personally I think it would be an interesting change of perspective, not to mention nice for young male fans like my little nephew to have a male companion they could relate to (he hates it whenever him and his sister play Doctor Who, he always has to be the Doctor XD).

Hardly the first time it's been done either. Steven and Jamie got to the Doctor's primary companion for at least a short time each. And you've got Wilf in End of Time. WILF! <3

[got_swagger]

Except there's the problematic undertone of that, which is that it's okay for little girls to admire and emulate and relate to male characters and female characters, but little boys shouldn't admire, emulate or relate to female characters at all, only males. It's an unfortunate double-standard.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Oh, that too. Reminds me of that quote about how little girls will want to be Amy Pond and little boys will want them to be Amy Pond. I misread it originally as "little boys will want [to be Amy too]" and I was like AWWWW... but nope.

[(Anonymous)]

That's just how kids are though. Sure it doesn't apply to all kids and at the nursery I work at I've seen as many young boys playing with dolls as I have girls playing with trucks and cars etc. But a lot of kids are in the mindset where they relate to things better when they're like them, gender and all. It's not ideal but they're kids. They're innocent.

[finmagik.livejournal.com]

I love your theory but growing up, I never found anything to relate to in so MANY female characters in fiction. None of them are remotely like me or something I'd like to be. And LOTS of little boys admired Sarah Jane and had their first crush on her.

[phineus.livejournal.com]

I cannot THIS this comment enough

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

A season in the Doctor Who universe is a long time, though! I mean... it'd be nice for young male fans, sure, and I'm not saying there can't be other male companions as well (like Rory! Or, you know, even better, a version of Rory who isn't criminally underused and underwritten!), but by the same logic what about little girls watching? I just think this show has enough issues when it comes to female characters without adding "there aren't any" to the list.

A full season is quite different to one or two specials, though.

[(Anonymous)]

A season in the Doctor Who universe is a long time, though

HAHAHA. Sorry, I had to laugh at that. It's just coz over here our seasons are like 20 episodes at the least. Doctor Who has about...13? Unless you mean how they were spaced out this year because, yeah, that did feel like a long time.

Well the little girls already have four badass female companions to aspire to (yes, they are all badass IMO). For guys it is just the Doctor and occasionally an underwritten male side character. What's wrong with just having one badass male companion who simply wants to travel with the Doctor and not just be there for the sake of his girlfriend? Also, c'mon, while Moffat is still around it means we'll always have River Song popping up in every other episode. So there'll hardly be no female characters left when she's become so important to the canon at this point.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

LOL I mean within the context of the show/for the show. Seasons are short but spread far apart

Why can't there be a badass guy who is not a boyfriend and a badass woman with x/y/z plot? I have nothing against that. Jack was like that (except that he never had a full season). That's all I'm saying. Make a great male companion! But he doesn't need to be the only one.

River Song is... not really going to cut it for me in terms of good female representation, unfortunately.

[dgcatanisiri.livejournal.com]

I'm conflicted on the subject, personally. There are times that I'd like to see the dynamic of the Doctor interacting with a primary male companion, just because it would be a new thing to explore, something that we haven't seen before, and it would say to young boys that they could be companions too, which is a message that I'm not seeing much on modern Who, where, except for Jack, the male companions have been tagalongs to the female companions. At the same time, though, I acknowledge that the show already does have problems with female characters, so by dropping them from the main cast entirely would easily create more, not to mention that, though growing, the list of female characters on sci-fi shows who aren't created and used primarily out of a desire for sex appeal is still on the low side, and seeing more rounded female characters is always a good thing, so... I don't know.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

I mean to be honest I'm satisfied by the glimpses you get with Craig or Jack or Mickey or Rory, Craig and Jack I guess being better examples of male companions who interact with the Doctor for reasons beyond a mutual friend/girlfriend. I guess it just never felt to me like there was a lack of deep male friendships on TV, particularly in sci-fi, whereas there IS a lack of strong female characters.

But I wouldn't mind having a male companion unrelated to the female companion tag along for a whole season, sort of like Nine, Rose and Jack in s1. I just wouldn't want it to become only Nine and Jack.

[(Anonymous)]

What about a compromise, with a male and female companion who are not romantically involved and who are treated equally by the show, maybe even siblings?

[finmagik.livejournal.com]

Yeah I'm sick of that. I've noticed NOTHING but T&A. And heard the way Fanboys talk:
"Oh I'd abduct her and do nasty things." And THEN the disgustig, degrading fanart.

I thought Deanna Troi was T&A, when I watched the ST:TNG Hated her worse then Wesley, actually I didn't mind Wesley. Then ST:VOY I watched it from the start and.... Seven of Nine ewwww I hated her, to me it was series lowest moment bringing her on.

And The things they have Tegan and Peri running around in. But DAMN Amy is no BETTER.

However MOST of the Doctors haven't been Lookers. I'd have to say Three are classically good looking.

What are telling little girls? You can awesome adventures but but you have to STACKED? Depressing.

[(Anonymous)]

If the Doctor was ever a woman, that'd be different

Like Helen Mirren? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/23/helen-mirren-as-doctor-wh_n_1167719.html?ref=entertainment

If it ever happens, I would have to watch.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Helen Mirren would be a kickass Doctor.

[(Anonymous)]

If the Doctor was ever a woman, that'd be different

Like Helen Mirren? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/23/helen-mirren-as-doctor-wh_n_1167719.html?ref=entertainment

If it ever happens, I would have to watch.

[finmagik.livejournal.com]

Funny, funny... You know in most of Doctor Who's history it has been a Doctor and his female companion. Most of males who have been around the Doctor apart from Jamie have gotten NOTHING but contempt. The girls get more respect.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Well, everyone loves the Brig too, and in New Who Jack and Rory are both very popular. The girls might win out because of number and longevity but I'm not sure I'd say DW fandom gives female characters a lot of respect on the whole.

[finmagik.livejournal.com]

Sarah Jane? ACE? WTF?! Leela and her Janus thorns? Romana?!

Oh and look how the Brig was treated by Three. And I don't like Jack very much or Rory. Oh does ADRIC? Get respect? Or Harry where everyone is like: LOL CLAM!
Turlough? He's my favorite mainly because he's SO interesting... Because he's so twisted! Also to me he's a twink.

[tardiscrash.livejournal.com]

wow, what show are you watching, yeah the new stuff is his an miss but Ace blowing up Daleks, girls like Liz and Nyssa being a competent and respected sciences, Leela leading the way knife first and saving the Doctors ass. Romana can run circles around the Doctor academically. All the girls have wonderful bad ass moments.

They guys are always the but of the joke in Doctor who.