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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-25 05:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #1849 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1849 ⌋


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[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! ♥

[identity profile] smittenlotus.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
This. Holy shit. "Cunt" is on a whole other level of offensive, and refers specifically to women. "Bitch" can be used to describe someone (not just women) who's seen as pushy, rude, bossy, flat-out mean or excessively whiny.

[identity profile] hooves.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
the ideas suddenly...stopped

I understand that only too well. I have a pairing I just ADORE (icon absolutely related) and I started on some crazy crusade to write a ton of 'fic about them. And I do mean a ton. I recruited people to my cause and an old fan of the pairing gave me their "Queen crown". But then as my friends started getting busy with college classes and real life stuff like friends groups and D&D, I lost almost all of my inspiration to write-- period. Not just for the characters, but for the entire fandom.

What keeps me in a fandom are the people in it, more than anything. I mean, when you've been in a fandom for 10 years the canon material is still near and dear to you, but you know it by heart already, there's very rarely something new to discover there. But the friends make continuing to write or draw for that fandom fun, especially when you can share your OTP/favorite pairings/characters with them. Once that's gone it's just...sad.

Though eventually I guess we can expect to be burned out on things, right? I mean, I still write for my "main fandom", but very sparingly now, when I used to crank out at least three one-shots a week! However, I've been reading in another fandom lately and I admit, I'm having fun doing a lot of reading and very little writing for once.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
I've written fic for over a decade, sugar, I've been flamed, critiqued and made fun of, my skin's quite as thick as it needs to be. I'm not talking about meanness for the sake of being mean, I'm talking about snooty ass art students who think that the only reason to draw at all is to go pro with it. Fanfic writers grasp that most people are doing it for kicks. Fanart needs to catch up.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Sazh :D

I don't know if it's just because he's awesome or if it's because parents-doing-everything-to-rescue-their-children plotlines always just get to me, but he's probably one of my favorite characters in the Final Fantasy franchise (also he's kind of adorable)

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
...so instead of employing critical thinking skills ("not all X are Y"), we are instead supposed to drum out all crazies in the world who share our fandoms. If we don't, it's our fault that our subculture is judged poorly.

Riiiiight.

[identity profile] livetuned.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:01 am (UTC)(link)


here you go, it's one of my favourite talkloids :)

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
She has that effect on people.

[identity profile] livetuned.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
IS DAT A VOCALOID SECRET?!

omg this video is one of my favourites. I'm kind of sad I can never really find these types of talkloids anymore. :(

and pfft, who cares if kaito's a program? the important thing is that it helped you. :)

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
To me, this seems like a really futile attitude when dealing with the relationship of a larger culture to a minority culture. There's no way to win. If you're hostile or condescending to the culture, you're (rightly) considered a privileged asshole, if you're indifferent to the culture you're a privileged asshole, and if you're actually interested in the culture and want to learn, apparently you're fetishizing.


Yeah, if it's just "Emmett's so cute!!!," that's a pretty shallow reason and the person will probably drop it anyway, but it's a good thing if the show has sparked a genuine interest.

[identity profile] gabzillaz.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
I ship it idgaf

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
And yet, we've seen serious divergences already. Again, the focus. Bro likes Puppets. A lot. Seemingly to the exclusion of people. Dirk likes ponies, which was an aspect I don't recall being even a thing, and presumably Jake English. I say presumably because only the shades have actually stated this, and they are three years of experiences different (and, I wonder if Shades Dirk is pansexual simply by virtue of the fact he no longer possess hormones, and thus has circumvented the genetic process entirely to focus on whatever he finds mentally engaging)

That said, considering what we know of Bro, Dirk isn't especially shocking either. But again, Im just reproducing the stupid, I don't pretend to know how this blindsided those people, but my theory is they are act fivers.

[identity profile] rightcyclone.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
I've been meaning to watch this show, but I missed the first season when it was on. Is it on hulu or anywhere online (legally)?

Another show, if you can find it, that you might be interested in is Sue Thomas, F.B.Eye, which is based on a true story, and I really enjoyed.

And yes, take ASL. It's useful to have, and not nearly enough hearing people learn it, even if you don't go for interpreter certification (which is what I want to do, once I get enough money to go back to college). If you do any sort of customer service-type work with the public, you'll never know when it might be useful, and I've found that most Deaf people tend to be quite grateful to not have to write everything down.

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Born deaf, but I get by really well on a hearing aid.

Spent most of my pre-college education in a deaf school where I was treated horrendously by students and staff, partially because I didn't play sports, partially because I was poor, and partially because I wasn't completely deaf.

I've spent the last 20 years or so watching deaf culture crawl further and further into its own asshole. I really wish a lot of deaf people didn't think it was okay for a deaf woman to shove pencils into her hearing baby's ears, and I'm disgusted by the notion that that a deaf child should be forced to a lifetime of disability, isolation, and yes, prejudice, particularly when we have still made little progress in teaching deaf students language properly, giving them the ability to read and write well, because some people think cochlear implants, which are most effective when installed at birth, are a tool of hearing oppression.

And when they throw a fit because the president of Gallaudet University "isn't deaf enough" despite being deaf, having deaf parents, and working in deaf education, because she used her voice and didn't actually learn ASL -- not sign language in general, but ASL -- until she was 23, deaf culture's identity politics officially venture into the realm of unintentional self-parody.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
I really wish a lot of deaf people didn't think it was okay for a deaf woman to shove pencils into her hearing baby's ears

I think I very vaguely remember you mentioning this a while ago on another post about deaf culture, but it still completely horrifies me and made me double take at the screen

[identity profile] rightcyclone.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
I have a friend who got his degree in Japanese language, and has been certified to the first ranking in fluency. Yes, he initially started taking Japanese in high school through anime, but he now has a very nice-paying job as a translator at a company in Seattle, who has sent him on extended trips to Japan at least twice, to do translating for their Japanese side. I think he's done work for city-government over there as well on one of his trips, translating documents for a sister city delegation that would be coming.

If you live in an area with heavy Asian population/influence/connections, it can be quite a lucrative major.
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2012-01-26 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
For me the divergences we've seen so far that can't be explained by the fact that it's an entirely different universe (we have crab lusii running around on earth, gushers taste like bugs, etc) are more or less all explained by the fact that Bro and Mom weren't 15. I've got a lot of hobbies, interests and skills--and emotional damage--as an adult that I didn't have when I was 15.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
IA, though with one reservation: I do respect and understand girls who say they personally don't like the term bitch -- they might have had negative connotations with the word, a jackass boyfriend or other male figure who called them that to put them down and denigrate them for being female. That would definitely color the term for them and I'd respect their desire to not have to hear it. However, the idea of jumping all over someone for using the term "bitch" is something I hate, although I'm a woman. First of all, people have learned the term "bitch" and use it all the time in both sexist and non-sexist contexts, and if someone says it in a non-sexist way, they probably aren't being sexist themselves. They're just saying what pretty much everyone in the english-speaking world says. Now, that in and of itself isn't a reason, and some people say that we still should educate people not to use the word, but I disagree. I use the term "bitch" quite a lot. I LIKE using it. When I use it, I don't use it in a sexist context -- and since I'm a girl, shouldn't I be the one deciding what a sexist context is? I personally have no problem with people who do use it, pretty much because I use it all the time because of three reasons:

1) You can't call a woman a jerk, a jackass, an asshole, a douchebag, a dick, a prick, a dickhead, or anything else that means the same thing as "bitch" without sounding really stupid. Seriously. "Bitch" is the word that best conveys your meaning when you're faced with a mean-spirited, nasty human being who happens to be female.

2) Personally -- and this is personal, I'm not gonna try to convince any girl who doesn't feel the same -- I love the idea of stealing insults from the people who insult you, the way Americans did with "Yankee". And we kind of did do it. Now, it's no longer just something men say to women, women have totally taken it back and can use it in a gazillion different contexts, including non-negative ones.

3) Phonetically speaking, it's just a fucking awesome word. "Bitch". Just listen to it! An explosive "B" that punctuates a sentence perfectly, a "tch" at the end that conveys anything from shock to humor to disgust so well without the difficulty of a hard consonant, and with both sounds combined with a "i" in the middle, it has so much flexibility that you can adjust your tone and inflection and emphasis to use it as anywhere from a familiar term of endearment to a wonderfully precise, vicious stinger.

In any case, I think that as a girl, I ought to be able to use the word "bitch" if I want to. And I don't mind men using the word "bitch" (in a way that isn't explicitly sexist -- using terms like "I'm gonna fuck that bitch so hard" or "shut your mouth bitch" and stuff is despicable and really offensive to me. I also think using the word "bitch" against men considered weak is pretty offensive too). Other women may feel differently and I respect that, but I'm gonna resent you if you tell me I shouldn't be allowed to say whatever the fuck I want to people of my own gender.

[identity profile] raccoons.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not colorblind and I think it's kinda pretty, especially when I'm not focusing on the words and it all blurs together.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Do some deaf mothers really shove pencils in their hearing baby's ears? That's horrifying.
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[identity profile] mutantjules.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
no dude, that's AWESOME.

[identity profile] intrigueing.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
They've actually used the word "bitch" since at least season 4. They just used it very sparingly and in a non-sexist way. "Sparingly" pretty much sums up why the Simpsons were good back then -- they knew when not to push it and had enough imagination to think up new jokes.

[identity profile] othellia.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I always figured dave's hair was actually just albino crow feathers

LOL this is very possible.

[identity profile] theprincesslime.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
*highfive*

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
There is still time to change things! I am still picking up vocabulary from books and TV. I can't tell you how many times I have said 'Frick!' in real life, and I didn't start watching Scrubs until three years ago. Our brains are awesome sponges of doom.

But Hitchhiker and Discworld are AWESOME, and those writer's vocab is wonderfully amazing.

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