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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-28 03:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #1852 ]

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[identity profile] noforcenosound.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
well, I don't think there needs to be ANOTHER straight white male version of watson and holmes when there's already been two successful ones in the past 3 years, one modern and one starring an American (even with a put on accent).

switch it up a bit more! mystery and close friendship is a timeless narrative and that's why those stories are still so popular, but I'd love to see a female version or a non white version or yes, slasher alert, a gay version.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Frankly, I want the BBC version to become the "gay version". Or stop making jokes/comments about it in EVERY DAMN EPISODE. Seriously, writers, put up or shut up. It's not cute or funny or coy anymore.

I agree that having the characters be minorities or females (and still have Watson be an ex-soldier) would be a nice twist.

[identity profile] noforcenosound.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
bbc sherlock will never become the gay version, though. they've already played that joke up way too much to have the pair of them get together.

although mary hasn't shown up yet....where is she?

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you're probably right.

although mary hasn't shown up yet....where is she?

Eh... I've stated my feelings about the Mary thing elsewhere, so forgive a cut and paste:
Canon Holmes and Watson could sort of have separate lives and still work together, etc. BBC Sherlock and John are MUCH more co-dependent, and Sherlock seems much more selfish than canon Holmes. So while canon Watson could have a wife, John... yeah, as soon as Sherlock comes back, John will be back at his side, and Mary’s gonna have to like it or lump it. Really, aside from delaying their true "reunion", I see no purpose to give John a wife...

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[identity profile] copperiisulfate.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
FEMALE VERSION. SO MUCH YESSSSSSSSSSSS.

[identity profile] noforcenosound.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
that's my true desire. I can't understand why there hasn't been one yet! it would be like rizzoli and isles but BETTER

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
If they did a female version, and decided to have Irene Adler, would they make her male?
Hmm...

Sheridan Homes
Dr. Jane Watson
DI Greta Lestrade
Janet "Jan" Moriarty
Ian Adler
Col. Stephenie Moran
...
I am having WAY too much fun with this...

[identity profile] copperiisulfate.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
not even gonna lie, my sole purpose in life right now is to pimp out the idea of genderswap!sherlock in hopes that someone picks it up (or at the very least, write like 100000k of fic of it)

this may or may not have been partly repsponsible (http://biggitybiggityboo.tumblr.com/post/16265022919/all-of-them-together-femme-sherlock-character)

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[identity profile] meilinn.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a soviet female version, btw

[identity profile] copperiisulfate.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
DOES IT HAVE SUBTITLES? BECAUSE IF SO, TELL ME MORE.

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[identity profile] solo-by-choice.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
OH MY GOD PLEASSSSSSE

LIKE I KNOW THEY'D PROBABLY FUCK IT UP BUT STILL IT COULD BE FABULOUSSSS
AND THE FANDOM WOULD BE GREAT
OR AT LEAST THERE WOULD BE LOTS OF FIC

I need to stop wanting this because it isn't going to be, but I caaaan't :(

[identity profile] copperiisulfate.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I need to stop wanting this because it isn't going to be, but I caaaan't :(

RIIIGHT? I MEAN. IT WOULD BE LIKE THE GREATEST.

(and it will probably not happen)

BUT WE CAN DREAM ANYWAY

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally I would love to see a girl version. There is a movie with a female Dr. Watson made back in the 80s.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"The Return of Sherlock Holmes", right?

[identity profile] lolofielding.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Word to everything in this comment. ^_^

Have they said anything yet on ideas for casting for Elementary? I've heard nothing on it yet other than it being set in New York. A female Holmes would be a brilliant move though the pessimist in me doesn't hold out much hope. A female Watson? A bit more likely.

Personally I'm looking forward to seeing what they come up with. As far as I'm concerned there can never be enough Holmes adaptations. Either it will end up being a fun ride or a hilarious train wreck.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I like the idea of male Watson and female Watson. Watson has always been more emotional and, yes, less intelligent than Holmes, and making the one male and the other female just supports existing gender stereotypes. Doing the other way 'round would be way more interesting.

[identity profile] lolofielding.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
No I don't want that dynamic either which is why I think a female Holmes would be a lot more interesting. But, sadly, if they were to genderswap anyone I can see it more likely being Watson for the very gender stereotyped reasons you stated. I can just imagine a producer saying something like; "Watson always felt more feminine to me...so we thought to make him female here."

Which is what happened to the protagonist of the Silent Hill movie. :P And that gave me enough "eww" to last me a lifetime.
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[personal profile] scarfman 2012-01-29 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)

It's been done, sort of. There was a 70s tv movie that starred Larry Hagman as an inept motorcycle cop named Stanley Holmes whose motorcycle falls over onto his head, and he wakes up thinking he's Sherlock Holmes, and his social worker is a woman named Watson.

[identity profile] copperiisulfate.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
y'know, one one hand, i can't help but think that female!watson could be interesting. on the other hand...I WANT THEM BOTH TO BE LADIES because male!sherlock and female!watson would likely mean LOOK AT SHERLOCK, HE IS SO SMART. LOOK AT DR. JANE WATSON. SHE IS SO FASCINATED BY HIM. and she would probably not be a soldier or allowed to be nearly as badass as a dude. and yeah. dnw :((

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, a female Watson fangirling over a male Holmes is a very different dynamic than male Watson fanboying over a male Holmes.

Plus, how long do you think it could be until they decide she should have a crush on him? And before you roll your eyes--look what's happened with Irene Adler in more modern versions (even the BBC one, where she says she's a lesbian), and you DON'T think they'd pull that with a female Watson? They would totally do it. You know it, I know it, the smiley-face on the wall knows it.

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[identity profile] mekkio.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Why wouldn't Lady Watson be a soldier? If it's a modern adaptation she could be. There are female medics all over the place in the Army.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a female version of Holmes. Shirley Holmes, anyone? It's hilariously bad though (and Canadian), but I love it.
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[identity profile] meilinn.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved it too!
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[identity profile] mekkio.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
How about Sheryl Holmes? Or just keep Sherlock. It's not really a strong gender specific name to begin with.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I find "Sheryl" (and "Shirley") too normal. "Sherlock" isn't a normal name for a guy, and if they made Holmes female, she shouldn't have a normal name, either.

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