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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-28 03:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #1852 ]

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
06. http://i.imgur.com/qIJOs.png

[identity profile] myrasis.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
So, "if you were a REAL fan like ME you'd agree!" ? How lovely.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

And I suppose most of the BBC Sherlock fans forget that theirs is not the first modern adaptation of Sherlock Holmes (*cough* Basil Rathbone *cough*)

The pretentiousness of the BBC fans in general is disgusting. I hope the CBS version is awesome (which is far fetched because it's CBS but still) so I can passive aggressively rub it in everyone's face =D

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll give it a chance, because I like BBC!Sherlock and want to see other modern adaptations (no, things like House don't count.) I don't actually like the original stories that much. Am I doing it wrong or right here?

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[personal profile] scarfman 2012-01-28 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)

That it developed that the production company apparently first approached the BBC Sherlock people about a licensed adaptation makes it a little hinky. But I look forward to judging it on its own merits once it's produced as I do the new Buffy that's on the drawing tables. I don't mind fans of a particular treatment of a set of characters having their preference, but I don't understand the emotional need to prejudge and badmouth a new treatment before it's even out. The same thing went on when Trapper John, M.D. and Star Trek: The Next Generation and the revival of Battlestar Galactica were announced, and look what happened there.

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[identity profile] beck-rocks.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
they're just jumping on the bandwagon and trying to make some cash out of the sherlock craze lbr, but i'll give it a watch anyway.

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
It's Americans shamelessly stealing and Americanising yet more stuff. London is practically a character itself in the original stories, but no, everything in the fucking world has to happen in New York to be of any use to anyone.

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[identity profile] noforcenosound.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
well, I don't think there needs to be ANOTHER straight white male version of watson and holmes when there's already been two successful ones in the past 3 years, one modern and one starring an American (even with a put on accent).

switch it up a bit more! mystery and close friendship is a timeless narrative and that's why those stories are still so popular, but I'd love to see a female version or a non white version or yes, slasher alert, a gay version.

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[identity profile] sparklywalls.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm of two minds about this. There's this weird thing about being English where we're pretty defensive about our home grown stuff. I say we, but don't mean *I* think this or that I speak for all English of course and I say English because I'm not sure if other parts of the UK feel quite the same about their national icons.

What I mean is that there's the idea that Sherlock Holmes is so tied to being set in England and all the stuff that comes with it that the time you set an adaption doesn't seem to matter, because it's still set in England, in particular London. I think people are reacting like it's sacrilege to move the premise to a place where they perceive it won't work. I never saw the US version of Life on Mars but that suffered from a similar argument. I have a friend in LA who said it did kinda work actually but he still preferred the BBC version.

There's also the feeling this new adaption is riding on Sherlock's coat tails by virtue of it being a modern-era take on it. In a way I think "no shit, something is popular so someone decides to make a new version to appeal to their own region, that happens all the time!" However, once again I understand why people are being defensive because there is a track record of our stuff not transferring very well to a US setting.

Then there's the part of me that just laughs at all this and thinks that if we tried to make a British version of successful US show, exactly the same people this side of the pond would complain or they'd deem it acceptable, not realising the hypocrisy.

TL;DR, I'll try to give it a chance but I get where some of the anger is coming from even if I don't agree with it.

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[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a HUGE SherlockBBC fan and I'm keeping an open mind about the CBS show.

And I would LOVE LOVE LOVE the show if it was willing to do one (er two?) thing: NOT have James Moriarty and Irene Adler.

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm actually looking forward to it. If it's done well, it could be fun.

Though I have no idea what the Sherlock fandom has done to deserve at least one secret/F!S post telling us how fucking stupid we are for liking it. It's getting a bit old, I sort of understand Homestuck fans now.

[identity profile] copperiisulfate.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
ngl i just have more unpleasant feelings towards CBS in general than the idea of a remake. with a classic like sherlock, it's probably going to be remade until the end of time but if they end up stealing from an existing (and awesome) british series just to pull in american viewers? not cool.

on the other hand, like what someone above said, switch it up a bit. GIVE ME GIRL!SHERLOCK AND GIRL!JOHN AND I WILL BE ALL. OVER. IT. (but of course this is american television so who am i kidding anyway)
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[identity profile] meilinn.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
IA.

[identity profile] solo-by-choice.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how to feel about it, really. On one hand, I really like several CBS shows, so I've nothing against the channel. Also, I've liked every single adaptation of Holmes I've gotten my paws on (and that's bits of pretty much every single English one). So I'm more than willing to give it a try.

On the other hand, I worry they'll screw it up somehow. Plus I really can't see how you could possibly set Sherlock Holmes anywhere but London and yet we already have a Holmes and Watson running around modern day London, in my mind. And it seems odd for Americans to try to pull off such a quintessentially British thing. Of course both the Harry Potter and LotR movies were made by Hollywood, technically...

Well, here's hoping it's great!

(and I love the ideas others have mentioned of switching it up a bit...oh god if only I could have a woman as Sherlock Holmes and have her still be a brilliant badass with better things to do than have romantic entanglements!! Also maybe a Holmes closer to the one in the books/stories? I love Cumberbatch and RDJ, don't get me wrong, but if you could somehow combine bits of their interpretations and get something closer to the original...)

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[identity profile] onewsouffle.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I had no idea CBS was coming out with their own modern Sherlock. :0

I can't lie and say I think it may have the ability be be just as good or better then Moffat & Gatiss' modern!Sherlock, (It'd be damn hard to reach that level) BUT there's no reason to completely dismiss it without giving it a chance. :)

[identity profile] adlanth.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm. On the one hand I can see why the possible imitation/US-centrism (and also the fact that there have been many versions of 'brilliant guy/less brilliant sidekick having adventures' in series) bothers people... but on the other hand I like seeing different interpretations of things (and even though I love the BBC version, I'm sufficiently pissed off at Moffat at times to be cackling), so I'm vaguely interested. I think I might like to watch the pilot at least...
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[identity profile] dwell-ondreams.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it'll suck because it's CBS. I could be wrong. It really all depends on the actors, writers, directors etc. If it's good, I'll be happy. If it's bad, I won't be surprised.

[identity profile] cloud-riven.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Fans are generally weird and defensive/possessive about things they like. So, despite most procedurals having a "modern!holmes" vibe anyway, an actual modern!holmes set next to their favourite modern!holmes, mixed with the whole "hurr durr American TV (in which they mean Jersey Shore) vs British TV (by which they mean select BBC shows)", means there's going to be a lot of stupid bickering. It's not as though they cancel eachother out.

I'm expecting the CBS one to be an enjoyable cheese show tbh. If it's good, or addictive, even better. I see no reason to pre-hate it.

And I'm also hoping I can actually make the Medium/Mentalist/Ghost Whisperer/Holmes crossover of my dreams an actual feasible thing now.

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[identity profile] xerxes92.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Unless this is the case I really can't imagine it being any good. (http://xerxes93.tumblr.com/post/16507901545/dakotaaaa-prufrocking-radiolocked) Honestly, it's just too amazing for anything else to be satisfactory to me.

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[identity profile] xerxes92.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I forgot to mention how completely STUPID I find the title "elementary." It's a dumb title and CBS should feel dumb for thinking it up.

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I am going to watch the fuck out of this just to piss off my Sherlock-BNF friend (though I don't know her opinion on it since we haven't hung out in a couple weeks because school). It will be glorious.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Maybe it's because of the fact that there have been so many absolutely wretched US remakes of Brit shows? And people are getting tired of the complete lack of originality U.S. writers/producers are showing these days by simply giving something British new American accents?

Said as an American who's entirely sick of this and can recognize a train wreck approaching without having watched/read any versions of Sherlock Holmes.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. Nothing gets my loyalty like that. I don't run slavering after whatever anyone cranks out just because it's under the umbrella of literary/TV Show "tradition." Not Doctor Who, not Sherlock Holmes, not Shakespeare... Nothing.

Just because I enjoy Shakespeare doesn't mean that I must witness, or even be appealed by, every Shakespearean production that comes along.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I worry that it will be made with no real affection for the series, because they are so blatantly attempting to cash in on the success of the BBC series.

I try to be open minded about it but then the defensive British part of me goes ‘OMG no, how dare you steal our icon! Call him Sherlock all you want but that won’t be our Sherlock Holmes.’

I mean, I enjoyed House’s earlier season, and that was very obviously a homage to Sherlock Holmes. The difference being that the creators of House made House his own character but with a love of Sherlock Holmes in mind, the creators of ‘Elementary’ are using Holmes in an attempt to make money from a successful concept and that doesn't sit well with me.

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I mean it's CBS, so it'll probably be crap.

BUT it might not be. And I don't see how the existence of the CBS show takes away from the existence of BBC Sherlock.

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