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(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)And I suppose most of the BBC Sherlock fans forget that theirs is not the first modern adaptation of Sherlock Holmes (*cough* Basil Rathbone *cough*)
The pretentiousness of the BBC fans in general is disgusting. I hope the CBS version is awesome (which is far fetched because it's CBS but still) so I can passive aggressively rub it in everyone's face =D
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That it developed that the production company apparently first approached the BBC Sherlock people about a licensed adaptation makes it a little hinky. But I look forward to judging it on its own merits once it's produced as I do the new Buffy that's on the drawing tables. I don't mind fans of a particular treatment of a set of characters having their preference, but I don't understand the emotional need to prejudge and badmouth a new treatment before it's even out. The same thing went on when Trapper John, M.D. and Star Trek: The Next Generation and the revival of Battlestar Galactica were announced, and look what happened there.
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switch it up a bit more! mystery and close friendship is a timeless narrative and that's why those stories are still so popular, but I'd love to see a female version or a non white version or yes, slasher alert, a gay version.
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What I mean is that there's the idea that Sherlock Holmes is so tied to being set in England and all the stuff that comes with it that the time you set an adaption doesn't seem to matter, because it's still set in England, in particular London. I think people are reacting like it's sacrilege to move the premise to a place where they perceive it won't work. I never saw the US version of Life on Mars but that suffered from a similar argument. I have a friend in LA who said it did kinda work actually but he still preferred the BBC version.
There's also the feeling this new adaption is riding on Sherlock's coat tails by virtue of it being a modern-era take on it. In a way I think "no shit, something is popular so someone decides to make a new version to appeal to their own region, that happens all the time!" However, once again I understand why people are being defensive because there is a track record of our stuff not transferring very well to a US setting.
Then there's the part of me that just laughs at all this and thinks that if we tried to make a British version of successful US show, exactly the same people this side of the pond would complain or they'd deem it acceptable, not realising the hypocrisy.
TL;DR, I'll try to give it a chance but I get where some of the anger is coming from even if I don't agree with it.
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And I would LOVE LOVE LOVE the show if it was willing to do one (er two?) thing: NOT have James Moriarty and Irene Adler.
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(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)Though I have no idea what the Sherlock fandom has done to deserve at least one secret/F!S post telling us how fucking stupid we are for liking it. It's getting a bit old, I sort of understand Homestuck fans now.
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on the other hand, like what someone above said, switch it up a bit. GIVE ME GIRL!SHERLOCK AND GIRL!JOHN AND I WILL BE ALL. OVER. IT. (but of course this is american television so who am i kidding anyway)
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On the other hand, I worry they'll screw it up somehow. Plus I really can't see how you could possibly set Sherlock Holmes anywhere but London and yet we already have a Holmes and Watson running around modern day London, in my mind. And it seems odd for Americans to try to pull off such a quintessentially British thing. Of course both the Harry Potter and LotR movies were made by Hollywood, technically...
Well, here's hoping it's great!
(and I love the ideas others have mentioned of switching it up a bit...oh god if only I could have a woman as Sherlock Holmes and have her still be a brilliant badass with better things to do than have romantic entanglements!! Also maybe a Holmes closer to the one in the books/stories? I love Cumberbatch and RDJ, don't get me wrong, but if you could somehow combine bits of their interpretations and get something closer to the original...)
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I can't lie and say I think it may have the ability be be just as good or better then Moffat & Gatiss' modern!Sherlock, (It'd be damn hard to reach that level) BUT there's no reason to completely dismiss it without giving it a chance. :)
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I'm expecting the CBS one to be an enjoyable cheese show tbh. If it's good, or addictive, even better. I see no reason to pre-hate it.
And I'm also hoping I can actually make the Medium/Mentalist/Ghost Whisperer/Holmes crossover of my dreams an actual feasible thing now.
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(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 01:32 am (UTC)(link)Said as an American who's entirely sick of this and can recognize a train wreck approaching without having watched/read any versions of Sherlock Holmes.
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(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 01:42 am (UTC)(link)Just because I enjoy Shakespeare doesn't mean that I must witness, or even be appealed by, every Shakespearean production that comes along.
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(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 02:08 am (UTC)(link)I try to be open minded about it but then the defensive British part of me goes ‘OMG no, how dare you steal our icon! Call him Sherlock all you want but that won’t be our Sherlock Holmes.’
I mean, I enjoyed House’s earlier season, and that was very obviously a homage to Sherlock Holmes. The difference being that the creators of House made House his own character but with a love of Sherlock Holmes in mind, the creators of ‘Elementary’ are using Holmes in an attempt to make money from a successful concept and that doesn't sit well with me.
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BUT it might not be. And I don't see how the existence of the CBS show takes away from the existence of BBC Sherlock.
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