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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-28 03:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #1852 ]

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[identity profile] theorygirl.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, you probably wouldn't be legally allowed to read fanfiction, to prevent plagiarism claims. I guess you could have someone you know read the fics and tell you who the good authors are, if you wanted to.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
That's actually my plan. I mean, heck, if I by some miracle and hard work get that famous I plan to have aids. Aids who will lurk around fandom and report to me on the best writers and so on.

But I figure that way, if there is a epic story that wouldn't have occured to me, I can draft the fanfic writer in it so it's a part of canon while respecting the person making the contribution.

But I do wish the laws were different, but I get why the law acts that way. A lot of authors would probably steal and not credit the source or give anything to the person who spent a year on a epic fanfic, which is a screwy thing to do to a fan. :/

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, no, it's more likely that a fan will write a story where like there is a cat, and then the author has a book where there is a cat, and the fan will sue because THEY STOLE MY IDEA.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hah, probably is more likely in that way! Kinda like the McDonalds stuff. "I'm suing because COFFEE IS HOT!"

I just am expounding on worse case scenario for the fans. /shrugs
Edited 2012-01-28 23:59 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Kinda like the McDonalds stuff. "I'm suing because COFFEE IS HOT!"

Wow way to talk about something you have no clue about. That women had third degree burns.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
this. she had them on over 6 percent of her body and required several skin grafts for them (which aren't cheap, hence part of the reason why she sued. she actually tried to settle at about 20,000 dollars but in a fit of idiocy McDonalds said no so they moved forward with the case and she got over 600 thousand bucks out of them)

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand they're not cheap, but unless she had the cup sitting in a secure cup holder (instead of holding it in her hand or between her knees while she was driving) and the cup just disintegrated and spilled all over her from there, then I can also see how McDonalds would think it might be possible for them to win the case.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Reading over the case now, I do think that she had likely cause to sue. However, I do dislike the suing culture that assumes the majority of the fault lies with McDonalds in this case (because there are other issues where McDonald's is ridiculous, and where they should be shouldering the blame). The client performed a couple of ill-advised actions herself (balancing the cup between her knees, which is a recipe for disaster in many times I have seen it done by other people and a couple times with myself), and other parts of it are tragedy of the circumstances. It was a terrible accident, and it's not like McDonalds (in this case) was doing anything other than serving coffee at a temperature that most it's clientele desired.

Urgh, defending McDonald's beyond a cheap joke... bleh. Excuse me while I go to wash out my mouth.

But as I said, she did have cause to sue as in her case I doubt she had the money to pay for those bills, and McDonald's should have offered her more right off the bat as they were partially at fault.

Of course, this is all from a moral discussion and less from a law one, as I'm not a lawyer or even a law student.

And, with all that said... I am kinda amused that you feel the need to accompany every post with a rude tone when I have yet to do the same to you. There is no need for being brash, especially when it comes to cultural situations like that it is rare that a person would know the extent of the lady's injuries. Heck, I think I was under ten when that case was passed. Heard the jokes, didn't even know it was a lady who sued or what their age was or what degree the burns were.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Are you blaming the victim of burns for her own burns? What the fuck is wrong with you?


And, with all that said... I am kinda amused that you feel the need to accompany every post with a rude tone when I have yet to do the same to you.


I'm not the only person in anon talking to you.

Heck, I think I was under ten when that case was passed. Heard the jokes, didn't even know it was a lady who sued or what their age was or what degree the burns were.

People like you contribute to problems in society. How about you educate yourself before spewing bullshit?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
She didn't get the seriousness of the case, anon, she didn't make the joke out of any malicious intent and she already apologized for what came off as a callous comment. You need to relax.

[identity profile] kikkyo.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This, and it's pretty obvious she went back and researched into it too. So that bit about her needing to educate herself is pointless.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Are you blaming the victim of burns for her own burns? What the fuck is wrong with you?

So I take a hot cup of coffee, balance it in my lap, and it spills, and in your opinion that somehow makes it the fault of the people who sold me the coffee? No, that's the fault of my own damn stupidity in putting the coffee there in the first place.

I feel for the woman and the severity of the injuries was clearly horrible but it was in no way anyone's fault but her own.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This!

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[personal profile] herongale 2012-01-29 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Wrong. I heard a story on NPR about the McDonalds coffee case some time back, and what you need to know is that McDonalds was serving their coffee at an excessively high temperature and had been receiving complaints about this for a while, and did nothing.

One of the reasons that case resulted in such a punitive payout is because there was a pattern of negligent behavior on the part of McDonalds. It wasn't just some one-off incident where no one else cared or suffered harms.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-30 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, their coffee was so hot that if she had drank it, like one does with coffee, she would have gotten burns on the inside of her mouth that would be horrible.

And Mcdonalds was well aware their coffee was dangerusly hot, employees who had been injured because of it had brought it to their attention many times

[identity profile] zombieroadtrip.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Third degree burns that fused her labia shut in a matter of seconds ffs

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
oh mary mother of christ, I knew she got burned pretty badly but I didn't know that. I think my labia literally just shuddered

[identity profile] deadtree.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
jfc what D:

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Aides. You're going to have aides.

If you plan to have aids? ...umm...

I think you mean aides.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
...Kids, never post when you have a fever. *facepalms self*

First the stupid Adele lyrics mistake, and now this? My type-fu is weak tonight.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
lmao this

I had to reread those lines like four times before I realized what they were actually talking about

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
But I do wish the laws were different, but I get why the law acts that way. A lot of authors would probably steal and not credit the source or give anything to the person who spent a year on a epic fanfic, which is a screwy thing to do to a fan. :/

you have no fucking clue, do you?

your kind of ignorance in how publishing works is ASTOUNDING.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-29 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
*looks at a bunch of rude anons following her around*

Wow, I mean, if you guys were polite and simply pointed out my mistakes, I would be inclined to care. As it stands, I am assuming troll-stalking right because I started ignoring that one thread which I stirred up the first person who trolled me and left me to laugh over things.

If you aren't a troll stalker, sorry! Just know that if you were polite I would have been kind and did the research, as my assumption in this area comes from 'what the hell else would these people have grounds to sue on unless the writer actually stole a idea from them? But if a writer doesn't read any fanfic, then that protects them and they can easily point to saying that it is merely a idea that occurred to them as well, which is most often the case anyway'. But since you weren't polite, I am afraid I must laugh and shake my head and ignore all anon posts for the night as it is too late for me to poke trolls, and it is too tempting to read these things and avoid poking.

So night!

(Anonymous) 2012-01-29 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
You have lots of anons responding to you because people are reading through the comments and keep coming across your posts and being astounding every time at how, no matter what order you put them in, each manages to be dumber than the last.
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2012-01-29 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
You plan to have aids? @_@

Oh, wait. You mean aides.

An aide (plural: aides) is an assistant or helper.

AIDS is a disease.