[ SECRET POST #1896 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1896 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 115 secrets from Secret Submission Post #271.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

17. http://i43.tinypic.com/n5gfmu.jpg

[karuvapatta.livejournal.com]

I'm... baffled that OP chose Shinji/Kaworu as an example of healthy and loving relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I really don't know what to make of that as they don't seem to be kidding.

[cherrycoloured.livejournal.com]

I think that last sentence makes it obvious that they know that their relationship is fucked up. Though their relationship isn't very healthy, Kaworu is the only "person" Shinji has met who genuinely cares about him and doesn't want something in return, and I think that's the part OP was focusing on, not...everything else about their relationship.

ETA: I keep trying to use my NGE icon for this but my default shows up...LJ bug?

[karuvapatta.livejournal.com]

I don't know. I've only read the manga, but to me it didn't seem like Kaworu was in love with Shinji - more like a combination of fascination, curiosity and jealousy. As for wanting something in return - he did ask Shinji to kill him, didn't he? Even though he knew Shinji wouldn't be happy about that.

And can't help you about the icon, sorry - I never actually tried to use any but my default :D

[cherrycoloured.livejournal.com]

I'm only familiar with the anime, so maybe this is part of it. From the little I've seen of the manga, Kaworu is very different in it. He's only in one episode of the anime, but he seems to have a generally pleasant disposition and actually does like Shinji. Also, he wants to die so Shinji and his fellow humans can live, so it's still somewhat caring in a very fucked up way. In no way is their relationship healthy, since Kaworu's ways of showing he cares are really warped, but he seems to really want to be Shinji's friend.

That was more meant as a general comment, about the icon, not specifically to you, so I'm sorry that was unclear. But, my icons work elsewhere...IDEK about LJ anymore xD

[(Anonymous)]

The anime characters, which came first, bear little resemblance to the manga characters (Kaworu doesn't strangle cats for one). Kaworu is only in the one episode but he's very loving and caring toward Shinji (it's been years but iirc, he told Shinji that he was created for Shinji and he pursued a relationship w/Shinji--they had a sleep over even), who doesn't really know how to take it but yearns for it and is starting to accept it when he has to kill Kaworu, who ends up sacrificing himself and his mission in order for Shinji to live--he wants Shinji to keep on living and that's why K must die by S's hands. Having to kill Kaworu really fucks up Shinji and impacts the rest of the series. No one has sympathy for Shinji having to kill what he regards as the one person who truly cared for him w/no expectations (ie. I don't want you if you won't kill the Angels attitude of Misato and Gendo (Shinji's father)).

[(Anonymous)]

I'm always baffled but grateful whenever someone explains those last few episodes of Evangelion. I never understood what happened.

[omorka.livejournal.com]

It's not so much that their relationship is in any way healthy as it is that it's less unhealthy than practically every other relationship in the series. But that says more about the other relationships than about theirs.

[countess-k.livejournal.com]

I only watched the old anime series and Kaworu was in one episode and that was it. I'm curious, did they manga/new anime actually expand on his and Shinji's relationship?

[cherrycoloured.livejournal.com]

The manga does, and though Shinji and Kaworu haven't met in any of the movies so far, Kaworu does show up, and the last line of the second one is has huge Shinji/Kaworu tones.

[cloud-riven.livejournal.com]

In the manga, Shinji doesn't like Kaworu, but Kaworu is attracted/drawn to him after mind-connecting-melding with Rei. And Kaworu doesn't understand why he is or why Shinji doesn't like him (hint: he's kind of a cat-strangling dick). At around the time Kaworu has to go all Angel Time, Shinji finally kind of accepts him and has to kill him, just like in the show.

Oh, and Shinji hyperventilates while having a panic attack in bed, and Kaworu gets off on being his impromptu human paper bag.

The manga is pretty much an AU after a certain point.

[hunterwithcause.livejournal.com]

Well, OP, I feel pretty safe saying things will go very differently than how they did for Shinji, should you find (or be found!) by such a person. Unless you have an humongous mecha and an enormous, human-like something hidden away in your basement, in which case you .... would have a really big basement. And a buttload of problems, such as your asshole of father. And about thirteen other problems.

That said, it's not weird or unreasonable to want someone like that. Everyone should have their very own Kaworu. (Without the killing and the destroying humanity thing.) I know that I wouldn't mind meeting someone like that.

[100101011.livejournal.com]

shinji/kaworu is my otp for life, man. i've never even read fic about them, but...ugh. just so angsty and fucked up and so so so much <3.

but...no comment on the secret lol.

[(Anonymous)]

...Didn't he also, in a way, manipulate Shinji? At least that was the impression I got from what I've seen.

Though, I'll admit - I haven't seen everything that's connected with this series so I'm sure I'm probably missing something.

[(Anonymous)]

It's NGE. Every theory is true / untrue.

It's the original, ultimate troll series; everything is possible.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I'm well aware of *what* the series is. I watched the old anime - but I haven't seen the new one/movies/manga for it.

But it was a pretty great troll series, as I remember it XD

[cloud-riven.livejournal.com]

Outside of the manga, and thinks like Gakuen Datenroku, they don't have much of a relationship imo. There's the subtext, especially in the EoE movie when giant naked Rei has to pull his face in order to get Shinji to assimilate or whatever. I ship them in all canons though shhhhh

I'm kind of hoping the next Rebuild movie that comes out this fall gives them more interaction. Not just for shippy purposes, but because Kaworu is probably the least developed pilot character, and I just want to know more about him :( And Mari too. Seriously shhhhh don't tell anyone

[(Anonymous)]

Kaworu is totally my favorite character, and the reason for that is that I don't understand him at all. But that's probably because I had no idea what was going on at all by the time he showed up.

[cherrycoloured.livejournal.com]

I'm hoping for that too! Kaworu is my favorite, despite not knowing much about him, and his Rebuild appearances have been really interesting.

[cloud-riven.livejournal.com]

Depends who you talk to. Mari's either, a useless addition to the series and whose only purpose lies in providing more fanservice, a badass without the typical pathos of an EVA pilot, bewbs, or this confusing character that seemingly dropped in from a completely different series/universe.

I like that last one C:

[sevenatops.livejournal.com]

That seemed to be Anno's intention. He wanted a character that would "destroy Eva;" a girl that bore as many modern anime tropes as possible. Because he just loves deconstructing what anime fans love.

[(Anonymous)]

I know exactly what you mean, OP. I'd kill to have to a Kaworu in my life too. Someone who was nonjudgmental, accepting, supporting, and who loved/cared for me would be awesome. I relate to Shinji and his life circumstances (esp. abandonment by father and used to make him look good at Christmas to his family) and personality more than I want to admit).