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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-22 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #1967 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1967 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-22 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Or Canadian.

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-22 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. I almost added this, actually.
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[identity profile] spicandspan89.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
TBF for every socially liberal part of Canada, there is a sizeable population of narrow-minded conservatives. Case in point: the recent elections for the Alberta government came down to a choice between two right-wing parties (one much loonier than the other). >.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
French Canadian, anyway. ;)

(Anonymous) 2012-05-22 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you mean American

(Anonymous) 2012-05-22 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Please, according to F!S Social Justice League (TM), America is an ass backward conservative, super religious, sexist, racist, fascist, homophobic country.

And most likely the secret maker judges any American harshly because of this.

[identity profile] htebazytook.livejournal.com 2012-05-22 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
to be fair, although obviously there are many good things here, America is an embarrassment in a lot of ways, and pretty fucking 'un-American' sometimes

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[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-22 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahahha.

Lol.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
a) Since when do American SJ types on the internet give a fuck about class or labor issues (aside from maybe a reblog or shout out to the Occupy movement which most don't care about)

b) Pretty sure the US is one of the countries OP is talking about as being conservative and back asswards

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[identity profile] anonlulz.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
You sound Hypocritean.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
Funny you say that. I've been called a pedophile and a mysogynist by Americans several times, because my European country has lower age of consent and because abortion is illegal and widely disapproved (mostly by women themselves, shocking as it is). I don't even agree with those, I just mentioned that it took me some time to accept some concepts because I was raised in a culture preaching different values and I was still dogpiled for not knowing what is right instinctively.

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
Where are you from? I thought Ireland, but the age of consent there is really close to that of the US.

(You're certainly going to see that same attitude from other Europeans though regarding abortion. Americans probably talk about abortion rights more because it's actually a big issue here, that being said. I seriously don't know any Americans who aren't really conservative themselves that think the country is OMG SO TOLERANT THOUGH, and the idea that OP is American just strikes me as really unlikely because the SJ movement is notoriously harsh on the US. Plus, OP mentioned ALL KINDS of issues, not just age of consent and abortion. That being said, being dogpiled was very inappropriate though unsurprising from SJwarriors, and I'm sorry that happened to you. I grew up disapproving of abortion as well because I didn't know better and was fed a lot of false truths from places I trusted.)
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[identity profile] inkedfeathers.livejournal.com 2012-05-24 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel for you, anon.

"The world is not America" is a hard, hard concept for many to grasp. "Your way isn't the only right way" is another one.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
Because Europe is a monolith amirite. The gay rights in Holland are just like the gay rights in Ukraine!

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
*Northern Europe or much of Western Europe.

[identity profile] cashay.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Since Europe isn't one big country but a continent with a big bunch of different cultures etc. I don't think "European" is an accurat category to put people in. It's like saying "You sound Asian" or "You sound South-American".

But maybe I see that wrong since I'm from Europe myself. Anyway, so why does the OP sound European to you and what classifies someone as having a European opinion? (nop not sarcasm I'm really interested^^)

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
As a fellow European I think it was supposed to be sarcasm. Then again... lots of people love to think of all European countries as one big hivemind ;)

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It was sarcasm. I'm well aware of this. ^^;

To explain though, I'm part of a REALLY, REALLY international fandom, and it is a mindset I legitimately do see from fans- the last part of the statement- with some unfortunate frequency. Usually this comes from fans from more liberal countries*, i.e. Norway, Denmark, etc.

*This is far from a condemnation of liberals. I am very liberal myself.
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Not all Western European countries are super liberal FYI.
Ireland, for example.

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I know. I'm not talking about the countries themselves. I'm talking about the mindset and attitude you see from people.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear everyone everywhere,
Europe is not a single country with homogonous 'uber liberal' beliefs. Try getting an abortion when you have been raped in Ireland, or going on a gay rights march in Ukraine.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Ireland may be more liberal it regards to some issues, but almost all the political canidates I've come across are really conservative when it comes to abortion.

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I completely agree with this actually.

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