[ SECRET POST #2002 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2002 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[loracarol]

Isn't that the point of movie!Sophie's character, though? That she doesn't think highly of herself, therefor being cursed means little, because the person who is cursed (herself) means little to her? That's why she says things like "well, my clothes finally suit me now", because she really doesn't see herself as mattering. Also, on why Howl couldn't actually be Howl in the very beginning, she says it's because Howl only eats the heart of "beautiful girls", i.e. not her. She just doesn't see herself as important, I thought that was just why she accepted it. And even then you can see that she doesn't completely accept it, look at the meal that she eats with Markl and Howl that first morning, when she gets angry, and tries to explain the curse, but can't.

And, honestly, I thought Princess Mononoke was actually really uplifting. Fatalistic? How? The lepers getting a second chance, instead of just being left alone to die? The ex-prostitutes being given a chance to have a respectable job, with a boss who respects them? And, tbh, I didn't get that the couple was "abusive", but that they had a joking relationship that worked for them. Did I miss something?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the same, I had a hard time seeing who the "abusive woman" part referred to.

OP, you can try My Neighbour Totoro, Laputa or Porco Rosso, they're very different from the three you've already watched!

[loracarol]

I think that they're talking about Toki and Kohroku? Maybe? At one point Toki says:

Toki: Thanks, stranger. My husband's an idiot, but I'm glad he's safe and sound.
Ashitaka: That's a relief. I was starting to think I'd done something wrong by bringing him back home.

which doesn't really sound abusive? To me?

I mean, I don't care if the OP doesn't like Princess Mononoke or Howl's Moving Castle, I just can't see how their reasons are accurate representations of the works involved. :/

[(Anonymous)]

Mm, I thought it could be Toki and Kohroku as well. But I saw them more as the "fierce lady and hen-pecked husband" couple used as comic relief characters. They really seem to love each other.

I love those films as well. I get all happy when Ashitaka catches that flying arrow with his hands. And all sappy when Sophie and Howl travel the world together.

[loracarol]

Exactly! And I thought they really did love each other too. :)

That movie is amazing. It used to scare me, but now I think it's my favorite, and the ending of HMC always makes me D'aaaawwww. ♥

[diet_poison]

I just watched HMC for the first time two weeks ago. I absolutely adore it. ♥

[childings.livejournal.com]

Mononoke was so preachy I felt like I was in church watching the damn thing

I saw it in the theatre and it was the first Miyazaki film to ever get a widespread theatrical release and I was so disappointed I felt sick after watching it

[(Anonymous)]

I like Princess Mononoke and thought the message was well handled. Most save the environment movies I have seen paint nature as something good and pure and helpless. This movie showed the truth. That while nature can be seen as beautiful, it is amoral and brutal. That they were able to get the message across without woobifying the land or making man evil.

I actually really like Lady Eboshi. She is a BAMF trying to solidify her power so Iron Town can continue to exist.

[jazmin_firewing.livejournal.com]

I also really like the message in Princess Mononoke. And Lady Eboshi is one of my all-time favorite Miyazaki female characters.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Eboshi was just about the only thing I did like about that movie, but I just remember thinking "I wish this character was in a totally different movie"

[republicanism.livejournal.com]

yeah, i think the stuff re:sophie is definitely true. it's more obvious in the book than in the movie tho of course the book is really different. aside from not thinking she's beautiful (in the book) she also doesn't think she has much of a destiny or choice about her life because she's the oldest child, so i think both movie&book were showing how she changed and didn't feel resigned to her fate anymore

don't remember getting any of what OP got out of mononoke, either, but i haven't seen it in forever soooo yeah