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i am pretty sure they've never clarified which one was the majority.

I thought it was obvious by Katara being the only waterbender in the whole of the Southern Water Tribe? If that's not a good reason, there's the fact that the highest seats of power are held almost exclusively by benders in the original series, the use of bending to terrorize citizens and commit crime in LoK, and the Council and the elite metalbending police force in LoK. If the benders aren't a minority, they are quite clearly a privileged class.

Oh, I see where you got that. Sorry, I guess I should have said "non-privileged class" or something of that sort. I mean, original anon hasn't seen the series, so I was trying to sum it up.

That's because the Fire Nation took all the waterbenders from the Southern Tribe, so of course the majority left behind would be nonbenders.

So? They're still dead, iirc. If the living are almost all nonbenders and the Northern Water Tribe and Foggy Swamp Tribe have nonbenders, then the ration of nonbenders to benders is probably fifty percent or less.

Unless a massive amount of waterbenders were suddenly born to the Southern Water Tribe, waterbenders still represent a minority there. The Fire Nation also killed all the airbenders but Aang, but this actually elevates the number of benders in the world because only one Air Nomad child was a nonbender (Bumi). The decimation of theses two groups changes the ratio of the world.

I somehow doubt the ratio would be that much.

On which side? I personally think benders are a privileged, minority upper class with the nonbenders being a non-privileged underclass, which was the gist of the first comment, which I then corrected because I realized that I was conveying the wrong idea.

"there's the fact that the highest seats of power are held almost exclusively by benders in the original series"

The leader of the southern water tribe, the leader of the northern water tribe, and the earth king were all non-benders.

so no.

And the majority of the rich people and powerful people that we see in the original show (the Beifongs, the fortune teller, Mai and her parents, Ty Lee, and Master Piandao) are non-benders. And the benders who are rich and/or powerful are either fire nation royalty, bending masters, or members of the military, which is because benders make convenient soldiers because they don't need as much training in combat or weapons.

Benders are not privileged, they're people born with a skill that makes them convenient for working as a laborer, a cop or a soldier, which are all pretty shitty jobs and don't put them in high economic or social ranks. In fact if they ever want to get anywhere in life with their bending skills (and aren't quite skilled enough to be pro benders) they're gonna want to join a triad, which incidentally happens to be the source of the bending/non-bending problems if Amon's "backstory" and Hiroshi Sato's entire reason for hating benders wasn't an indicator. The main problem here isn't that benders are privileged, it's that there aren't labor laws in place or a minimum wage, so benders can't really live off the shitty jobs they're "privileged" enough to get and thus some turn to a life of crime.

They meant minority as far as privilege not how many of them there are. The benders in this world have more privilege due to their strength and powers. Sometimes it is used to oppress the non bending minority.

Man, the use of the word "minority" that way is confusing. just sayin'

As I said above: Sorry, I guess I should have said "non-privileged class" or something of that sort. I mean, original anon hasn't seen the series, so I was trying to sum it up.

I don't see it as a majority/minority sort of oppression, just the oppression of the powerless by those that have power. IMO with the amount of power that the benders have over the non-benders, numbers wouldn't matter.

Y u white, Korra?

lol are u srs

Nice try. ;)

I'm reasonably sure that that's a screen cap from the show, so...

Pretty positive it is. By the looks of the lighting and shadows in the rest of the icon it's just a bright light shining in her face, I didn't think it made her look whitewashed. :/

NO NO NO NO

AS A LIGHT-SKINNED POC, I CAN TELL WHEN LIGHT-SHINING-ON-FACE IS BEING USED IN THE CORRECT WAY, AND IT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ME THAT IT IS BEING USED IN THIS WAY ON PURPOSE BY YOU (POSSIBLY IN CONSPIRACY WITH THE SHOW'S ARTISTS) TO WHITEWASH THIS CHARACTER OF COLOR. I AM OFFENDED.

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Considering how the show made Sokka white in the flashbacks, they're not above fucking up.

And that screencap is edited as fuck. You can edit without whitewashing.

And it doesn't look that way on my pc. Pretty sure this was discussed in the other comm somewhere.

Just. Stop.

Showing Korra in glaring light is so much of a fucking non-issue that I cannot even believe people bother to point it out.

It is as far from actual racism as you can fucking get.

(And also reminds me of Transformers Animated fandom, where Western fanartists tended to draw Sari as brown as she was in the show, while Japanese artists frequently drew her relatively really pale.)

WOMAN OF COLOR HERE. I AM NOT OFFENDED BY THIS. LET'S MOVE ON UNLESS ANOTHER PERSON OF COLOR COMES AND IS OFFENDED BY IT.

Are you fucking kidding me.

they probably are

I was always under the impression that the majority (in numbers) of the population were non-benders, not just because of the war, but because that was how genetics in that world worked.

I'd say it's really debatable how genetics work in that world. This is the best argument I've seen so far and it's not even really an argument:

http://diglossia-fic.livejournal.com/81359.html#cutid1