[ SECRET POST #2002 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2002 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's really not. The heaviest issue at present is a very convoluted and distressing oppression of minorities and those minorities taking the fight too far.

[(Anonymous)]

i am pretty sure they've never clarified which one was the majority.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it was obvious by Katara being the only waterbender in the whole of the Southern Water Tribe? If that's not a good reason, there's the fact that the highest seats of power are held almost exclusively by benders in the original series, the use of bending to terrorize citizens and commit crime in LoK, and the Council and the elite metalbending police force in LoK. If the benders aren't a minority, they are quite clearly a privileged class.

Oh, I see where you got that. Sorry, I guess I should have said "non-privileged class" or something of that sort. I mean, original anon hasn't seen the series, so I was trying to sum it up.

[sachiko_san]

That's because the Fire Nation took all the waterbenders from the Southern Tribe, so of course the majority left behind would be nonbenders.

[(Anonymous)]

So? They're still dead, iirc. If the living are almost all nonbenders and the Northern Water Tribe and Foggy Swamp Tribe have nonbenders, then the ration of nonbenders to benders is probably fifty percent or less.

Unless a massive amount of waterbenders were suddenly born to the Southern Water Tribe, waterbenders still represent a minority there. The Fire Nation also killed all the airbenders but Aang, but this actually elevates the number of benders in the world because only one Air Nomad child was a nonbender (Bumi). The decimation of theses two groups changes the ratio of the world.

[(Anonymous)]

"there's the fact that the highest seats of power are held almost exclusively by benders in the original series"

The leader of the southern water tribe, the leader of the northern water tribe, and the earth king were all non-benders.

so no.

And the majority of the rich people and powerful people that we see in the original show (the Beifongs, the fortune teller, Mai and her parents, Ty Lee, and Master Piandao) are non-benders. And the benders who are rich and/or powerful are either fire nation royalty, bending masters, or members of the military, which is because benders make convenient soldiers because they don't need as much training in combat or weapons.

Benders are not privileged, they're people born with a skill that makes them convenient for working as a laborer, a cop or a soldier, which are all pretty shitty jobs and don't put them in high economic or social ranks. In fact if they ever want to get anywhere in life with their bending skills (and aren't quite skilled enough to be pro benders) they're gonna want to join a triad, which incidentally happens to be the source of the bending/non-bending problems if Amon's "backstory" and Hiroshi Sato's entire reason for hating benders wasn't an indicator. The main problem here isn't that benders are privileged, it's that there aren't labor laws in place or a minimum wage, so benders can't really live off the shitty jobs they're "privileged" enough to get and thus some turn to a life of crime.

[bellerose11788.livejournal.com]

They meant minority as far as privilege not how many of them there are. The benders in this world have more privilege due to their strength and powers. Sometimes it is used to oppress the non bending minority.

[diet_poison]

Man, the use of the word "minority" that way is confusing. just sayin'

[(Anonymous)]

As I said above: Sorry, I guess I should have said "non-privileged class" or something of that sort. I mean, original anon hasn't seen the series, so I was trying to sum it up.

[kikkyo]

I don't see it as a majority/minority sort of oppression, just the oppression of the powerless by those that have power. IMO with the amount of power that the benders have over the non-benders, numbers wouldn't matter.

[(Anonymous)]

Y u white, Korra?

[(Anonymous)]

I was always under the impression that the majority (in numbers) of the population were non-benders, not just because of the war, but because that was how genetics in that world worked.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say it's really debatable how genetics work in that world. This is the best argument I've seen so far and it's not even really an argument:

http://diglossia-fic.livejournal.com/81359.html#cutid1

[altuscor.livejournal.com]

Man, I am just not getting this show. I couldn't get into the first one, and though this does stand a better chance of being more interesting, I can't seem to get excited about this one. I feel like such a black sheep for not, well, being enthusiastic about the series as a whole.

[(Anonymous)]

I wanted to be excited too. I really was excited when it was announced, actually. I was going to catch it later because I don't watch tv anymore, (like in a dvd, which wouldn't be too expensive to collect because the series is shorter), but the more I hear about what it's actually like, the most relieved I feel about not getting invested to begin with.

It sounds like the kind of series I despise (too many "cool" action scenes, some difficult-to-like characters, a kind of setting I don't really like, an emphasis on romance and love triangle to the detriment of everything else...)

[altuscor.livejournal.com]

God, I know that feeling. Yes, when it was announced, I was thinking to myself that this might turn out to be more than the first series. I thought that this could be the animated equivalent of a "demi" Xena: Warrior Princess... Then I heard about those two brothers and saw the designs and thought to myself "Man, who are these clowns?". Well, the shorter one I probably wouldn't mind since he looks like he's decent and more than a pretty face, but oy vei...

[didgeridoodle.livejournal.com]

Well, the shorter one I probably wouldn't mind since he looks like he's decent and more than a pretty face, but oy vei...

Even though you're not into the show, I see you still have fine, fine taste, mate. You don't know how right you are, haha.

[diet_poison]

That last thing you said? So spot-on. I liked LoK but that was the main thing that kept me from loving it. ugh.

[(Anonymous)]

I keep getting super excited when a new episode comes out, then I see it and I'm like, the fuck was I so excited for? I watch for the scenery. And Meelo. Holy fuck, Meelo is awesome.

[altuscor.livejournal.com]

Admittedly, the worlds themselves look like something else. Rarely, in my opinion, has there been an Asian influenced world in a western cartoon on top of all that.

[cashay]

and even with that they can't deal with properly. I mean in the end the average non-benders are ignored and we get only the extremists vs. the benders and in that scenario the benders are always the good ones. We don't even get to see the reasons why people decided to join the equalists, they tried to make them less black and more grey but I think they failed pretty epcially at that.

[(Anonymous)]

It's the thing I dislike the most about the LoK series (I haven't seen the last two episodes, so maybe all this is resolved. Fuck if I know.): the non-benders, who are clearly the underclass of society unless they are entrepreneurs or friends with powerful benders, have ample reason to resent benders. Recently, they've been terrorized by criminal benders and the elite police are especially powerful earthbenders. At least three Council members are master benders. And the Avatar has just joined the probending circuit, which means she's focusing her time, which she owes to the world on a game.

Yet, we never see the Equalists in a good light. Amon's public energy bending has been against known or suspected criminals or bullies. Bending is likely seen as a semi-religious power in that world, so Amon, a nonbender, being able to do something only some Avatars could do has to be seen as a sign that something wrong in society needs to be fixed.

But the first thing we see is Korra picking on an Equalist who basically tells her she's privileged. I'm not an SJ Warrior but that was messed up. Korra never recants her stance that Equalists are universally bad. The only nonbenders Korra has been seen to tolerate/possibly like are directly connected to the Air Temple. The only time she takes pity on an enemy is when Tahno's bending, which he openly abused, is taken away. And then she vows to get Amon back for taking it. The power. Tahno abused. She thinks about the welfare of benders first, when she should be focusing on how Equalists hurt everyone, including other nonbenders.

I thought I was going to like a rough-and-tumble Avatar, but Korra is a disappointment. She abuses her privilege, associates with very few nonbenders, and can't mediate issues in the least. All she is is a bully.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. I had heard about the series' flaws, but it being problematic wasn't something I knew. Thanks for the comment. Now I know for sure that the writing and the plot would drive me crazy!

[(Anonymous)]

Did you miss the episode where she stood up to Tarrlok for abusing the non-bender population?

[(Anonymous)]

Even the newest Thundercats handled the oppressors/minorities issues better.