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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-04 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #2010 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2010 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Panic! at the Disco/One Direction]


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03.
[Mad Men]


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04.
[My Princess]


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05.
[Questionable Content]


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06.
[NCIS]


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07.
[Okami]


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08.
[la brigade chimérique]


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09.
[Ally McBeal]


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10.
[SS Omega]


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11.
[Final Fantasy XIII]


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12.
[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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13.
[Heroes]


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14.
[Salma Hayek and Cote De Pablo]


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15.
[True Love, "Holly's Class"]


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16.
[Star Trek TNG]


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17.
[Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core]


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18.
[Katawa Shoujo]


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19.
[US Women's Gymnastics]


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20.
[Legend of Korra]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #287.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-04 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
What's a Traveler doing on F!S? I thought they didn't like canoodling with non-Travelers.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-04 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Even when I was allowed home, we had wifi. And we're allowed to socialize, just not marry outsiders, or talk about certain things, or do what I did, and have a giant shouting match with the head of the family and get crossed off.

Also, I don't know where that extra 'l' came from. I must have had more to drink than I thought.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2012-07-04 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
ETA: Well, OP told you, so ignore this.
Edited 2012-07-04 23:49 (UTC)
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2012-07-04 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you miss your specific family or the culture in general or both? I'm sorry you can't go home, OP.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I miss my family, and I miss my culture. I'm trying so hard, every day, to fit in to this culture, but the shine has worn off. I just want to be able to say I'm sorry and go home, then be back where I belong. I feel like an alien on some weird planet, all the time.

No other group would take me either. That's not how it works. I either get forgiven, or I'm out.

Edgar was willing to kill Noah Bennett, and god, I hated how much I understood that. I feel like I'm crazy. People think of my kind as "cults", and I've even been asked questions by the anthropology department. That's not what we are though. We're family. And I just want to be taken back.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know what you did, but do you think that there's any way you could convince your family to take you back, even if it meant giving up or compromising on something else important to you?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
I'd give them anything. But my uncle is just barely talking to me, and it's been four years. I think he'll let me come home eventually, but until then, I'm going insane. No offense, but I kind of hate the outside world at this point.

[personal profile] khronos_keeper 2012-07-05 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah; being willing to do things that are abnormal to the rest of society's standards, especially to protect your family or own life, is something I get.

I remember feeling so disconnected in college, sitting among all of these kids whining about having to stack shoes for 8-hours in an air conditioned store for $10 an hour. And various and sundry other petty shit.

Some of the shit I've done to help my family's work would probably make most people gag. I'm not proud of it, but it's who I am.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
If you can believe it, I actually told fortunes and did henna tattoos from the time I was 14. People are always willing to buy a stereotype, and pay too much for it.

I know what you mean. It's so strange, to be surrounded by these people who avoid their parents' calls, and whine about their siblings. They have so much stuff, too, and they want to complain to me about family and money. Me, a scholarship kid who checks the phone obsessively to see if anyone has called me. I just don't understand them.

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-07-05 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
You know, the thing with any subculture is, it can actually really be a special feeling if you belong to it, while outsiders don't really see it that way.

OP, if this is where you come from - it's not crazy. It's your family, your heritage - and no matter what you go on to do in life, that's a part of you forever.

It's perfectly natural to long to be with your family.

I have to ask - why can't you come home?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in a kind of "exile". My family still talks to me, but I'm not welcome at events, and I can't come back to live with them.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-07-05 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, that sucks. I hope you can maybe find some way to reconnect someday.
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[personal profile] countess_k 2012-07-05 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I know nothing about your culture beside what's in your secret, but reading the secret and your replies gives me an eerie feeling of cult like excommunication. Please correct me if I'm wrong, like I said I know nothing about what actually happened but if you felt unhappy with your family's restrictive customs, stood up to them and were driven out because of that, it's not your fault. IMO a family should never use the comfort and love it represents as a tool to control its members, and threaten to take it away if they don't abide by the (sometimes outrageous) rules set by its elders.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't defy traditions. I did something stupid, I was arrested, the police searched my stuff and investigated my relatives. I was a stupid kid, and when my uncle called me out, instead of apologizing for scaring everyone and putting some of my younger cousins in danger of being taken by CPS, since they look for any excuse to take our kids, I shouted and acted like an idiot. He threw me out, and I had to go live with my mother's family until I had a job, etc.

My uncle claims he can't trust me now, and that I don't deserve the shelter of the family until I can prove myself a responsible adult.

We really aren't a cult. We're just isolationist, for the most part. We interact, there's just a very clear line between us and everyone else. We've always been this way. People just see us that way because we're so different from the norm. I'm not kidding when I say the anthropology department beat a path to my door. (I started at college two years ago) Outsiders are insanely curious, because we seem so weird.

I've missed birthdays, and my sister's wedding, and the birth of my nephew, all because of my own mistakes. I just want to be forgiven and go home.
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[personal profile] countess_k 2012-07-05 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I work as a crisis line volunteer and there are just too many stories of young people defying cult-like families and getting excommunicated. Still, even if you made a mistake, it sounds like you've learned from it. A person that age is prone to doing a couple of stupid things so it should be understandable. Maybe you could talk to your uncle and explain the situation. Tell him you are older and know better and that you appreciate the culture very much. Maybe the reason he's still so strict is that he thinks you don't care for the family tradition and keeping you away is his way of protecting it. I've learned in situations like this, lack of honest communication is the thing that hurts both sides the most.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I can see how it looks, especially if you've dealt with stuff like that.

My uncle and my sister practically raised me. To him, it was a betrayal. The police were not exactly gentle when they ransacked our camp, and my uncle was furious with me, as he had every right to be.

I think after I get my degree, maybe he'll see I've become responsible. I've stayed on the Dean's List, I've worked for volunteer organizations, I've stayed out of trouble, etc. I just don't know how I'm going to do two more years of this loneliness. I'm going insane, I feel like.



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(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
Racism against travellers. Still the only acceptable prejudice it seems.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you know, choosing not to live like everyone else, and keeping our culture preserved, that just makes us a bunch of crazy people who can't be trusted to raise our own kids and take care of ourselves. We must be thieving grifters.

[personal profile] khronos_keeper 2012-07-05 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
I hear you. I grew up in a culture that's dying out in the US, and in the weirdest moments, I find flashes of sympathy in TV shows. I think the biggest hit was from Supernatural, weirdly enough. I watched it while I was in a foreign country, and it made me so homesick.

Oddly, Ben in Carnivale did this to me too. The Oakie farmer really reminds me of where I grew up. Check out Carnivale, you may like it.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm guessing farming society?

[personal profile] khronos_keeper 2012-07-05 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Nice call! Small farming society/sustenance living. (The factory farms and agribusinesses are another thing entirely.)

I'm not supposed to want to return to a life like this. There's a lot that's just not great. But it's pretty much all I've ever known, and the way I grew up is so far apart from the way most other people grew up, so I know what it feels like to be happy to find something that you knew being shown on widely-known media.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-05 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Seeing the Carnival was pretty amazing for me. The entire time, I kept going, "Yep, I've had that chore" (I got stuck on firepit digging a lot) or "Those look like our porches" and "Look, they have family breakfasts too" and even "Haha, they scam outsiders too". Even the way they dressed was familiar. I felt so homesick, it hurt.

I guessed from what Supernatural depicts and the reference to Oklahoma, that you meant small farming.

Yeah, people are shocked when I say I want to go home. Taking care of my family by digging the firepit, helping cook dinner, even telling fortunes like a bad stereotype to bring money in, I loved it. But it's like speaking another language to outsiders.

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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2012-07-05 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate this attitude. It's the same worldview that assumes it's ok to go and ruin the places where tribal peoples live because hey, they must *want* to go and live in cities and become accountants, right? That's progress.

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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2012-07-05 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that was the point of the storyline - it would have been a good place if Samuel hadn't been completly batshit. Of course it was sad that Claire etc felt they could only fit in somewhere by leaving their previous life but I can totally understand the appeal of such a community especially if you were raised there. Any sort of community would be the same, I would assume, even if it had bad points as well. It's your home, and your family.
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