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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-24 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2061 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2061 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Xena: Warrior Princess]


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02.
[tales of symphonia]


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03.
[The Girl From Tomorrow]


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[Spyro the Dragon]


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[Lamento -Beyond the Void-]


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06.
[Aidan Gillen]


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[Skyrim]


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08.
[Touhou Project]


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[Total Recall]


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[Castle]



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[Spyro the Dragon]


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12. [SPOILERS for the Dark Knight Rises]



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13. [SPOILERS for Digimon 02]



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14. [SPOILERS for the Borgias]



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15. [SPOILERS for Tales of Symphonia]



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16. [SPOILERS for asoiaf/game of thrones]



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17. [SPOILERS for A Dance With Dragons]



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18. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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19. [WARNING for pedophilia, rape, child abuse]



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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[personal profile] fscom 2012-08-24 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
18. [WARNING for eating disorders]
http://i50.tinypic.com/2vt8r4k.jpg

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Back in the day, I did an average of all the female X-Men's weight to come up with my ideal weight. It was 133 lbs, probably pretty healthy compared to some goals. Still, I've never met it or tried to. Too lazy XD
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[personal profile] logicbutton 2012-08-24 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
GIRLS NEED ROLE MODELS
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[personal profile] skeletal_history 2012-08-24 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh jeez, and all those stats were ridiculously underestimated like "5'10" 120 lbs" for women built like brick shithouses, as they were clearly devised by men who have no concept of realistic weights for women.
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[personal profile] nina_vendredi 2012-08-24 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Marvel is seriously the worst about height to weight too. DC is frequently unrealistic, but Marvel's downright dangerous. For example, I once saw a stats comparison of Catwoman, and Black Cat,
Catwoman was supposed to be 5'7" and 140, and Black Cat was 5'10 and 125 I think.

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nobody cares, but...

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Do we honeslty have to do this again?! If you want realism, don't read superhero comics! No matter which you will choose, the women and men in them will always look unrealistic! Use your freaking brain, i assume you have one!

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
But isn't she like 120 lbs according to most of those cards and stuff? That's not a unhealthy weight depending on your height. Sorry but I think your reaching trying to blame a number on a back of a trading card instead of oh I don't know magazines and TV.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a fine weight if you're 5'2-5'6. Anything taller than that, and it looks unhealthy.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-24 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
She'd have to be about 5'0 to have that set of muscles and still be 120.

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Not if you're 5'10, which IIRC, is how tall Rogue was supposed to be. Also, I don't see how this is that separate from magazines and TV. It's a source of unrealistic expectations.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're reaching here.

Even if 120lbs is "healthy" for some, that's not the point. EDs are accompanied by unrealistic thoughts and expectations; they're mental illnesses.
Just by having that one number to focus on, you've already got your fuel.

"Oh, maybe if I lose more than that, I can eat a bit and I won't be instantly overweight."
"I look like I'm more than 120lbs! People will never believe me if I tell them my weight."

etc etc

trying to blame a number on a back of a trading card instead of oh I don't know magazines and TV

At least magazines and TV have more variety to offer when it comes to women's bodies. If I grew up with comics like X-Men, I'm pretty sure I'd have unrealistic expectations about my body too.

My best friend has an ED, and she hates your typical women's magazines, TV shows, etc. In fact, she used to make fun of magazine articles that dealt with weight-loss and dieting - but look at her now. Fyi, she got her ED from nerdy movies and comics. I can definitely see OP's POV in this.

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[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-08-25 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
But OP clearly states they got the numbers from the back of a trading card, why are you even trying to argue that?

That's like if I said I was inspired to be an astronaut from watching Pigs In Space as a kid, and you coming in and saying "no, that's reaching trying to blame the muppets instead of the obvious Star Trek."

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
And this is the trap most people fall into: 120 is fine if you're below 5'7". Using BMI, it's low for 5'5" to 5'6" and below weight for 5'7". A woman who's 5'10" can be at 167 and not be overweight.

Rogue is 5'8" which makes makes her underweight. That the OP fixed on a number instead of a look could very well point to this card being the answer to where she found the source of an early trigger.

ED's are not directly caused by "magazines and TV". There are many different places and causes, including family, friends, and childhood heroes. That people keep trying to pin it solely on the fashion industry and Hollywood shows just how stupid those people are.

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
A bit OT, but I've been reading X-Men again and I'm bothered by how tall the women are. Maybe it's different in the US, but the average height in comics is so unrealistic when compared to my area, at least.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Average height for women in the U.S. is a bit over 5'4" last time I checked, and the average dress size was 14. X-man stats are nothing like representative of the average in my country.

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
If they're all supposed to be 5'10" or something, then yes, it's unrealistic. I'm 5'6" and live in the US and rarely meet women who are significantly taller than me (although it does happen).

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
lol yeah cause xmen should be more realistic. i mean, all that superpower mutation stuff is fine, but why are they all so tall?

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
I always loved that some of them were tall, so YMMV. There's too many people hating on tall women.

Kitty Pryde is generally shown as pretty short, though.

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[personal profile] streetcake 2012-08-24 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder what their weights would be if they took into account muscle mass. I mean, you can be thin but if you have muscles then that means you'll weigh more anyway.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
At least they drew some muscle mass. It's so annoying when they draw a muscle-free heroine that's super strong.
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[personal profile] logicbutton 2012-08-25 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, for real. I've actually gained weight since I started lifting a little over a year ago, but I'm smaller. Someone tall who's solid muscle like that, I could easily believe weighs 200 pounds. Yes, really.

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-08-24 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Think is, those figures never really corresponded with how those women *looked* - because most were buff/healthy looking.

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[personal profile] rbhudson 2012-08-25 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
That's not stupid at all. Lots of people struggle w/eating disorders and there's never a "good" reason to start

[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-08-25 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly? If it wasn't Rogue's stats it probably would have been something else. Sorry OP.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
*somewhat related*
Hey I used to collect those cards.

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