[ SECRET POST #2096 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2096 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[True Blood; sort of porny, illustrated ... choking and spanking or something?]


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[Koi Kaze; Freefall]


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16. [WARNING for self-harm]

[bogglelovesyou@tumblr]


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17. [WARNING for attempted suicide and depression]

[The Walking Dead]


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Comments

[fscom]

11. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]
http://i48.tinypic.com/2nulr94.jpg

[fauxkaren]

I like your idea better, but lol Moffat. That entire storyline was stupid and manufactured drama that was resolved ridiculously quickly.

[(Anonymous)]

I knew right away that she meant because she was infertile.

I like your theory a lot better though. I mean seriously, Moffatt, there's a little thing called adoption, ya know. Rory and Amy are a young, heterosexual, white, middle class, healthy couple. I hardly think they'd have a hard time getting approved for adoption candidacy.

Although considering how hard Moffatt has been shoving the ~specialness~ of biological motherhood down our throats he probably thinks that adoption wouldn't be the same.

[(Anonymous)]

They would have a MASSIVELY hard time. People say this kind of thing blithely, like being approved for adoption is just "tick a few boxes, get a CRB check". It's months of visits, panels, in depth interviews ("tell us a bit about your history"....!). Unless Amy and Rory lie through their teeth, they will be put down as having dangerous delusions. And if they lie through their teeth, they'll be put down as unstable (missing from one's job for months?"

C'mon.

Also, the real need and drive for adoptive couples in the UK is for NON-white and dual heritage parents, as there is an imbalance in those groups of children seeking new families.

[atgdng]

BUT DON't YOU KNOW THAT WOMEN ARE ONLY VALUABLE FOR THEIR BABY-MAKING PARTS AND ALL WANT TO HAVE OODLES OF BABIESBABIESBABIES AND IF THEY CAN'T THEIR WORTH IS NOTHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!

Sorry. Just. This plot seriously upset me.

[sabotabby]

x1000

[cleverthylacine]

+infinity

[loki]

Yep.

[menage]

I thought this too.

[(Anonymous)]

I knew it meant that Amy was infertile.

And while I agree it was all resolved far too quickly, the show is aimed at a young audience who probably wouldn't want the drama.

Personally, their little plotline in this episode hit hard because my cousin and her husband split up because of this very reason. My cousin wanted kids but she couldn't and it did destroy their marriage. It's a valid reason for divorce so I don't get all the hate Moffat got for this.

[(Anonymous)]

If a man in a relationship wants kids, and the woman cannot (biologically) have them, then why not adopt? Or if the man is so set on having biological kids then there's always the surrogate mother route.

I don't know, maybe there's something I'm not understanding here, but it seems to me that if you love someone then you wouldn't basically blame them (potentially guilting them about something that could be just as hard for them) for something they have no control over (being infertile) and leave them over it when there are other valid options available.

Moffatt got a lot of flack because he's been shoving the idea that women who aren't mothers are somehow incomplete women down people's throats a lot recently. It's understandable that people are starting to get fed up with it.

[spicandspan89.livejournal.com]

My problem with it was the absolute lack of communication between Amy and Rory. The fact that they never discussed it really bothered me. I guess Amy is an avoider, but it felt like Moffat needed some ~drama~ so he decided to break them up. And you're right, infertility is a sensitive issue and a legitimate reason to divorce. IMO, this storyline was very poorly handled. I would have loved to see Amy and Rory hashing out some of their issues after Demon's Run. Alas...

[wldcatsprstr_14]

That would have been awesome, OP. So awesome.

On another note, I really hate how everyone is like "Oh boo-hoo she can't make babies! So what?? Adoption! Women aren't only worth their babymakers! RAEG!! BLAH BLAH!'

If I found out that I couldn't bear children because of some fuckery that assholes had done to my insides, I'd be heartbroken. Never mind that this is after spending years around a man who is now my husband and has always professed a love for children, children that I obviously saw myself wanting to have with him at some point. Having that taken away in the most disgusting way and then having to live with the constant reminder of the life I thought I was gonna have would probably drive me to do some crazy stuff too.

Amy said it's been 10 years since they've known the Doctor. So it's been less than a decade since Demon's Run. Give the woman a break. She probably went through months, if not years of expecting to get pregnant before she realized something was really wrong. And then keeping that secret cuz she can't bear to break Rory's heart?

Adoption is a perfectly viable option but having your entire worldview shattered again by assholes, years after they robbed you of the experience of bearing and raising your first child? Realizing that, because of someone else's fucked up actions, your body can't do what you want it to do, something it was built to do, that every species in the world can do? Being screwed up and making a dumb emotional decision is a perfectly acceptable response.

Simply being a parent to a child isn't everything for some people and critiques need to learn that that's OK. A lot of women treasure the entire experience of being pregnant and giving birth and that's perfectly within their rights. Would you give people the same flack for wanting to actually have sex to have an orgasm instead of just pushing a button and having one, or actually wanting to sit down and enjoy eating food to be nourished instead of being fed intravenously? The end result isn't necessarily everything. Just like mothers who choose adoption for whatever reason (infertility, or simply not wanting to be pregnant) should be respected, mothers who'd rather bear their own children should be respected too. They've both made a perfectly acceptable choice and people need to stop shaming women who value their fertility.

[(Anonymous)]

I just want to hug you for that comment. A++++

[making_excuses]

You are awesome, and I agree with you so much.

Speaking as someone who wouldn't mind adopting (or being a foster mother) but if I was told that somehow I couldn't have my own biological children I would probably break down, because that is what my body is built to do, and if I can't do that what can I do?

[spicandspan89.livejournal.com]

Hear, hear!

[forgottenjester]

As an adopted kid I actually have to agree with you. My mom went through this exactly. (She wasn't infertile. There was an issue with my father.) They tried for a very long time and when they found out my mother was devastated.

In fact, she hadn't even considered adoption until a lady she was talking to while sick on a church retreat suggested it.

Now my mother is very happy with how things turned out but I know it doesn't work for everyone.

So yes, women should be valued and respected whatever decision(s) they make and reaction(s) they have.

[(Anonymous)]

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it were a little bit of both. Like, if she'd had the choice, she wouldn't because of psychological scarring, but now she just can't because the choice was removed from her.

[miarrow]

Yeah that would have actually made sense and been interesting to develop, but it would require actually paying attention to Amy's character's wants and needs, especially as it related to River and her experience in that matter.

[dezolis]

This. Moff has made it perfectly clear he has no interest in detailing the emotional impact of all the crap he's put Amy through. The three episodes following LKH had themes (child/parent relations, timey-wimey screwing up Amy's life, Amy needing to lose faith in the Doctor) that were just perfect for exploring how she was handling losing River but we got absolutely nothing. It blows my mind how little importance Moff gives to his character's feelings.

[b_dangerous]

Your idea was the way I saw it. Being corrected was just depressing. :(

[cleverthylacine]

That would have made so much more sense.

[lielac]

I heard it as infertile the first time around and I was pissed. More pissed when it got happy-joy-joy resolved at the end of the same damn episode. I mean seriously what the fuck, if you're going to open a season with that FUCKING WELL DON'T RESOLVE IT IN THE SAME DAMN EPISODE, MOFFAT

[htebazytook]

Ooh, if it really is psychological I will hate that moment a lot less. New headcanon!

[iggy]

I would have preferred that to be honest.

Damn tired of Moffat using Amy's body for his plots. It's gross.