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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-13 05:26 pm

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using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

(Anonymous) 2012-11-14 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Is this even proper English? My mom's been saying it recently, and it makes her sound like a hilljack. But I've heard a few other people say it recently too. Like, "I used to go hiking every summer. Anymore I just don't have the strength in me."

This sounds so wrong to me. But is it right? Just curious.
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] n7of9 2012-11-14 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
it makes no sense (unless you are channelling Yoda?)

Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

(Anonymous) 2012-11-14 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
That does not make sense in my brain. Wrong. Wroooooong.

Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

(Anonymous) 2012-11-14 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
hilljack?
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] inkdust 2012-11-14 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, it doesn't work. Sorry to your mom, but maybe reassurance to you?
Edited 2012-11-14 01:17 (UTC)
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] stuck4aname 2012-11-14 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds completely wrong to my ears.

Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

(Anonymous) 2012-11-14 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Weird.

Beginning you can't just move the word from the end of a sentence to the.

Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

(Anonymous) 2012-11-14 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, "anymore" is an adverb so you can't... really... do that...
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] blueonblue 2012-11-14 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
It's wrong, but don't be that person who corrects other people's grammar.

Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

(Anonymous) 2012-11-14 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
No worries, I'm not. My stepdad's stepmother I always uses singular "was" for plural subjects and I don't say anything. It's just that I've heard like 3 people put anymore at the beginning of their sentences, so I was just wondering if maybe it was something that was commonplace but not something I'd ever had exposure to. Seems that's not the case from the other comments though.

Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

(Anonymous) 2012-11-14 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
But then how will they ever learn?

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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-14 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
In that sentence it doesn't make much sense at all. But she's probably just doing what sometimes happens in what I call a "brain skip". Generally substituting a similar wrong word for the right word. Examples would be like, "Close the lights," or, "Turn off the door."

But I think someone saying something like, "Anymore of this nonsense and I will skin you alive," makes sense.
Edited 2012-11-14 01:34 (UTC)
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-11-14 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
In your last example, it would be "any more", not "anymore".
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] hoggle2807 2012-11-14 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Must be a regional thing, because it doesn't sound weird to me. It's an alternative for a "These days/Basically" type of phrase. Needs a comma though.

Like: I used to correct every grammar error I saw. Anymore/These days/Basically, I just let it go, unless it's a major error.

It's not Yoda-ish. Yoda-ish would be
"I used to hiking every summer. The strength in me, I do not have anymore."
Edited 2012-11-14 02:27 (UTC)
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-11-14 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Seems to be a regional thing. Everybody I've seen use it is from New York (state, not City. Though in this case the state does, in fact, include the city).

+1

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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] citrinesunset 2012-11-14 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. I'll be one of the few detractors here. It doesn't sound that wrong to me. I'm pretty sure I've heard it before, though not often. It's basically using "anymore" like "lately."

It is a little strange, though.
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-11-14 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
...I have never heard this before except when someone was mimicking Yoda. What.
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-11-14 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't actually sound wrong to me? And I don't think it's incorrect either, though it's a little colloquial imo. (Really, you CAN use an adverb at the beginning of a sentence.)

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-11-14 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently it's a colloquial thing: http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/anymore.html

So there's that. Still, grating to my ears.
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] siofrabunnies 2012-11-14 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's called "positive anymore", and it's primarily used in the upper Midwest US states and in Ireland. I use it, since I'm from northern Illinois. What your mom said sounds completely fine to me. Like Hoggle2807 said, it means "nowadays" when used like that.

Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] 30_rock_office 2012-11-14 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
People who do this drive me insane! No. Wrong. Bad. Stop.
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] tabaqui 2012-11-14 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Makes perfect sense to me, and sounds okay, but it's not grammatically correct. I can't quote you rules, though, heh.

Ah, i stand corrected! (look up two comments) 'Positive anymore' - never heard that, but neat.
Edited 2012-11-14 04:11 (UTC)
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Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] kikkyo 2012-11-14 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't sound odd to me. I've heard it, probably even used it idk.

Re: using "anymore" at the beginning of a sentence

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2012-11-14 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Proper English for which audience, medium, and mode?

As an editor, I might change that sentence for clarity and to better match the style of my organization. However, while this case is a bit odd, there's no strong rule against using a adverbial clause at the start of a sentence. Just a quick peek at Tropic of Cancer has the example, "Last night Boris discovered he was lousy." Thomas Jefferson started the Declaration of Independence with one (possibly also without a comma). E. M. Forster uses the same construction in the first sentence of A Passage to India. It's not the most straightforward construction but acceptable if the adverbial clause is being emphasized.

But as a member of a family with a fair number of weird spoken-language quirks, including my own speech defect, a grandmother with some weird German-American colloquialisms, and a malapropism-prone mother, I wouldn't comment on it unless my advice was explicitly requested.

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