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DA

I agree. If you did blackface where I live, no one would get offended. Actually, I remember my whole kindergarten class doing blackface and dressing up as an African tribe.

Where do you live?

And what is the dominant race there?

Middle of nowhere far in eastern Europe. Everyone's white here, I have honestly never seen a non-white person in my entire life... so racism is simply not a 'thing' here, since it's hard to be racist against all those other white people that surround you. We discriminate people with different religious and political views instead!

Okay.

See.

This is why no one was offended.

Because everyone there is white.

I mean, fuck, I'm reading and rereading your comments here and I actually have to laugh. How fucking stupid do you have to be to actually flat out say in complete earnestness "There's only white people in my country, so we can't possibly be racist in any way whatsoever!!!!"?

Unless you're trolling?

IDEK this is ridiculous. LMAO

Um, I think they meant that racism as a cultural phenomenon doesn't exist as such, that there isn't everyday discrimination based on race/ethnicity etc., not that people can't still be racist individually.

If they're dressing up in blackface in kindergarten, I think that racism as a cultural phenomenon exists there.

TBQH.

I mean, just because there aren't a lot of people of the race they're being racist toward in the country, that doesn't mean it isn't still a racist attitude.

DA
Or that's a really heavy subject to lecture a bunch of kindergarteners on, and it's easier to innocently let the kids pretend to be a black African tribe.

.............

I can't tell if you're trolling or not.

And yet I'm pretty sure you are. I win!

Lol, okay.

You for real think that just because it's easier than teaching kids about racism or, hell, even just teaching them about real Africans and African tribes, that makes blackface an okay thing to teach a bunch of kindergarteners how to do?

You might... want to reevaluate your priorities there.

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So what if it was easier? That doesn't mean it was okay.

Why did the kids even need to pretend to be an African tribe in the first place? That's what I don't get.

to better learn the ways of an african tribe member?

If you want to teach small children something about other cultures, which method would you choose: a lecture with maybe a few pics or a play where the kids can pretend to be from that culture? One of those methods is much more effective and interesting than the other.

lol you get a gold star, SJW troll, for trying to make someone feel bad about the fact that there are no other races in their area, like they had something to do with that.

Lol, and you get a gold star for pretending that's the point I was making.

Unless you actually do think that's my point, and not that, you know, it's shitty to claim a racist action is somehow magically racist because it's done in a country where there are very few POC to complain about it. In which case: lmao, fuck you're not very good at reading comprehension, are you?

ER, what? Did you read their comment even a little?

Where I live, it is usual for kids to paint their faces with black paint when playing a black character in school plays. There were black people involved in our independence, but the African population almos dissappeared in the 19th century, so there are literally almost no black chidren in school. And so there is "blackface". And no one thinks it is offensive because the concept of blackface doesn't even exist.

Or, you know, no one thinks it's offensive because there are very few people of the group who would be offended present and thus no one fucking tells you about it?

(DA) "Blackface" is a caricaturization and because of that, in certain countries carries a very negative baggage.
Meanwhile in some other countries, doing something like painting their faces for a school play is just to represent a non-white character; this is not done as a mock and doesn't have any negative connotations. Hence, is not offensive in those countries, even if in America and some other few countries it is.

+1

Some things just literally don't have the baggage attached in different countries.

Like the n-word. In America, it's a horrible slur. In Russia, what we call black people is really close to it - as in, it comes from the same root. I feel a little uncomfortable saying it sometimes, because I've lived in Western countries since I was seven, but it's just not offensive in Russian.

Or, I don't know, I've heard that the Polish word for Jew is a slur for Jews in Russian.

Truth. (There is no еврей in Polish, only żyd.) Both examples felt weird to me when learning them, and I still feel strange using the word in Russian, though I know it's not inappropriate.

/cool story.

Or the word homo. Apparently it's really offensive in America, but here it's just a word (the "official" word, even, the one all media uses) for a homosexual person, usually a man. True, it can be used as an insult, but pretty much all words can depending on your tone and intent.

In Spanish, the word "black" is "negro" and it is used as an endearment. I am white and there are people who call me "negri", "negrita", etc. So, yeah, words mean different things in diffrent places.