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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-21 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2150 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
There are not people here bringing up the context of it being a word about female genitalia, there is only you. There are rather a lot of us pointing out to you that where we live it doesn't have the same context. I'm not defending it, I'm telling you that we will continue to use the words we do in the contexts we do so long as it pleases us. You want to say it has another context, then fine. Go on believing that. It's utter crap that defies truth, but go right on believing it.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I keep bringing it up because you can't just fucking erase that context when you're talking about why a word is sexist or not.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-11-22 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yes you can. Several of did!

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
You can, but it completely invalidates whatever point you're trying to make.

PS aren't you a guy?

Get the fuck out of this conversation, it has nothing to do with you.

WHOA

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Who's sexist now?

Re: WHOA

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
the anon you replied to!

Re: WHOA

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me, but whoa is a word traditionally used to stop horses when humans are riding them, which is just WRONG. It offends me when people say whoa because I am descended from horses and am seeking revenge justice for my people. I mean horses.

Re: WHOA

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Best reply in the whole thread.

Re: WHOA

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
lmao thank you for conclusively demonstrating that you are in fact a troll

I feel a hell of a lot better about this thread now.
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Re: WHOA

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-11-22 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I know who's sexiest! (It's me)

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Anyway, so basically your response here is "because I don't care about sexism, stop talking about it!!!!"

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
And your response is "I say so and I know better" about the use of a word in its country of original and in a cultural context where it is not considered sexist and we're supposed to defer to your opinion, is that right?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
There is no fucking cultural context where cunt is not sexist.

There are only people forgetting it's history and divorcing it from the wider context of sexism in the English language.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Do you go through your day analysing the etymology of every single word you use, just to make sure it wasn't considered offensive by somebody somewhere in the past 800 years or so? How do you get anything done? Language evolves.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Language evolves, and yet sexism and sexist words are still here!

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
So language evolves except when it doesn't? Words can evolve but the word cunt is an exception?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
but the sexist words will be different words because the language changed

you can't hold only one element static and say it didn't change

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
but their root is still sexist

and sexism is still prevalent within language and society - society across the globe I mean, so don't give me some bullshit about 'in YOUR society maybe' because if you do I will have to assume you are even more wilfully ignorant than you already appear to be


Shit this isn't difficult stuff, go look up a sexism 101 list on google or something

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
well, if it's headed anything "101" - an American educational reference - it will have been compiled by professionally offended US college students, so I'll not bother, thanks
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-11-22 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I like this comment

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
no

the root of the word penis is tail, but nobody gives a damn and nobody cares

they just think penis is a guy's junk

it doesn't matter if the root is sexist, the damn word doesn't mean the same thing anymore

are you going to keep shoving the old definition in people's faces and scream, "look! look here! this word is sexist! you can't use it" when nobody is using the word in a sexist way anymore?

cuz that's pretty stupid

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even care if I agree with you the stupidity of your argument offends me. No one anywhere is still using penis to mean tail.

Please try again because I'm finding this thread fascinating.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, here's one for you.

Fag.

Two meanings.

Uk & Ireland - common slang for cigarette

North America - gay man - derogatory (though partially reclaimed)

Same word, but two different things, yes? But they have the same root. Faggot - a bundle of sticks used to start a fire.

For cigarette, that's a easy one - a stick shaped object you burn. For gay men, same thing - something you set on fire when you execute them for sodomy. It's a violent homophobic insult. Yet, in London, if I ask someone to light my fag, I'm not suggesting they set fire to my gay friend - I just want to borrow their lighter. Should we stop using fag to mean cigarette because it has the same root as a horrible homophobic insult? Or is cunt still super-speshul in that regard?

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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-11-23 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, but the root of the word 'fag' was not homophobic. so are you also implying that homosexual people do not have the right to be offended when they are called fags, because the root of the word fag has nothing to do with being gay? because you can't say that it works one way but not the other, or for one word and not a different word.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I am automatically going to discount your opinion from now on based on the fact that you literally just said that every culture everywhere in the world should have the same meaning for a word that is offensive in the Western world, because the Western world said so. I don't think I've ever seen a more egocentric opinion on here ever.