[ SECRET POST #2150 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2150 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my fucking god.

I can't... are you trolling? Please tell me you're trolling, this argument you're trying to make is so fucking pointless and nonsensical...

Okay. Okay. I have to ask. Why are you so invested in defending this word? Why is it so important to you that people quit bringing up the context of it being a word about female genitalia that is used as a swear? Why is it so fucking important to you to completely ignore the context of women being oppressed by men, of part of that oppression being that insults relating to women and women's body parts being used to insult men (IT'S INSULTING BECAUSE IT COMPARES THEM TO A WOMAN FUCK THIS IS NOT HARD), and of insults being occassionally used between friends as terms of endearment? Why? What horse do you have in this race? What do you gain from pretending cunt as an insult isn't misogynist?

[(Anonymous)]

There are not people here bringing up the context of it being a word about female genitalia, there is only you. There are rather a lot of us pointing out to you that where we live it doesn't have the same context. I'm not defending it, I'm telling you that we will continue to use the words we do in the contexts we do so long as it pleases us. You want to say it has another context, then fine. Go on believing that. It's utter crap that defies truth, but go right on believing it.

[(Anonymous)]

I keep bringing it up because you can't just fucking erase that context when you're talking about why a word is sexist or not.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Yes you can. Several of did!

[(Anonymous)]

You can, but it completely invalidates whatever point you're trying to make.

PS aren't you a guy?

Get the fuck out of this conversation, it has nothing to do with you.

WHOA

[(Anonymous)]

Who's sexist now?

[(Anonymous)]

Anyway, so basically your response here is "because I don't care about sexism, stop talking about it!!!!"

[(Anonymous)]

And your response is "I say so and I know better" about the use of a word in its country of original and in a cultural context where it is not considered sexist and we're supposed to defer to your opinion, is that right?

[(Anonymous)]

There is no fucking cultural context where cunt is not sexist.

There are only people forgetting it's history and divorcing it from the wider context of sexism in the English language.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you go through your day analysing the etymology of every single word you use, just to make sure it wasn't considered offensive by somebody somewhere in the past 800 years or so? How do you get anything done? Language evolves.

[(Anonymous)]

I am automatically going to discount your opinion from now on based on the fact that you literally just said that every culture everywhere in the world should have the same meaning for a word that is offensive in the Western world, because the Western world said so. I don't think I've ever seen a more egocentric opinion on here ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Why are you so invested in policing the language of another country? Why is it so important to you? Stop telling people to be offended by something they don't find offensive.

[(Anonymous)]

I am invested in pointing out sexism in language because it is something that affects me. I don't give a fuck if people don't personally find it offensive - whatever, not everyone has the energy to get offended by the same things as everyone else - but I would really appreciate it if people didn't claim that just because they don't find it offensive that means it's magically not sexist because it fucking is.

[(Anonymous)]

Sez you. Where you live. No UK holidays for you, in that case.

[(Anonymous)]

The only point you seem to be trying to make anywhere in this thread is "bawww you're wrong because England"

It would probably help make you look like less of a sexist troll if you had something other than that in your material, just saying.

[(Anonymous)]

I certainly don't have the time or energy to pretend to be a whole load of different anons, so I'll just assure you that I am not the only person on this thread using the UK (of which England is just one part) as an example of a place where a word holds a different meaning to that which it does in wherever you are from (which is definitely not the US, amirite? Definitely not)

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, it affect you. Well then, I'll just get on my bike and start spreading the word all across the Isles. Might take me a bit. Someone else will have to notify the applicable Colonies.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it's so funny that women get mad about sexism. So funny. Haha. Stupid bitches, amirite?

[(Anonymous)]

Are you under the mistaken impression that everyone arguing against you is male? I'm not. Go on, tell me how I've internalised misogyny and basically hate myself.

[(Anonymous)]

Based on the various writing styles, everyone here but insanenoodly guy is a female. How's that for sexism? Scientific fact that gender can be discerned through writing style. It's also scientific fact that women produce eggs and men produce sperm. OMG God was sexist!!!!

[diet_poison]

Society is made up of the sum of its people. Apparently, plenty of people no longer find the word "cunt" sexist. One day maybe nobody will. Your opinion doesn't automatically trump everyone else's. Nobody is saying you're not allowed to find a word sexist, but you're sitting here screaming that everyone else DOES have to find it sexist. Also, nobody is ignoring historical connotations and all that, some people just decide, after taking them into consideration, that the word as they hear it used today isn't sexist.

"Cunt" is definitely used as a sexist term at times, absolutely. But not every use of the word is a sexist use.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if people are using it in a reclamatory way or to refer to their own body part as a descriptor, of course it's not sexist.

But that's not the usage that the people in this thread have been talking about, so...

[(Anonymous)]

People in this thread have been using it as an affectionate term for a friend. Because that is what it is to us.

[(Anonymous)]

you have the right to be offended. you do NOT, on the other hand, have the right to demand that random people on an internet forum stop using a word that you think is sexist just because it offends you. if you don't like it, then you have every right to go somewhere else, but you don't get to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do or say unless it isn't legal.