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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-08-20 05:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #227 ]


⌈ Secret Post #227 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Things to click as usual? (:

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[identity profile] planecrashdream.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Is it ok if I butt in here to say that I agree w/ both of you?

After accidentally getting into a fight with some people because I once said "Remus/Sirius isn't canon", I can see why they want to keep it secret. Some people really take this stuff too seriously.

YES! I am so familiar with this. I really hate someone being rude to you for what you ship or don't ship and starting big fights about it, canon OR fanon.

Fanon is just as much a part of fandom as canon is. I still don't know why people go crazy over that.

Yes, again. Just... yes. Without fanon, there might not be any canon, because there would be no fans supporting/watching/buying/reading it, whatever "it" happens to be. Plus, wouldn't canon be incredibly boring without fanon?

[identity profile] planecrashdream.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
There's nothing wrong with shipping a non-canon pairing, guys!

Sing it, brother! (or sister, LOL)

Re: 14

[identity profile] planecrashdream.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting comm. Especially to someone who's pretty familiar with the canon material. I'll definitely be checking it out. Looks cool.

[identity profile] havelocke.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Kairi's defining characteristic, to me, is that she is the love interest (which I don't think isn't fair). I mean, I can do more with Olette and she's barely in the game! (Olette needs more love, she's an intelligent character people! don't make her gaga over roxas/hayner, she has better things to do thnx)

I didn't like how Riku looked in KH1, but I will admit that Riku is a good character, maybe a bit dramatic (all teens tend to angst at some point in their lives) but he made a good anti hero. He also is the best (in my opinion) character to represent a lot of teenage males (the jealousy, the self confidence issue, etc. etc.) But I'm a dork so don't take my word for it.

Your icon! I need to know what anime is that from.

And yes. Squeon pwns all.

Re: 10

[identity profile] gallo-de-pelea.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
OH! Hey, I think I saw some of her art in that Mangaka America artbook. Cool beans.

(Shit, if I could draw like that I'd take over the world.)

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(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't know. I'm not the iconist. :0

Some of the art used in icons has been passed around for so long that nobody knows who the artist is anymore. Some, I guessing, are probably too timid or lazy to ask. A small percentage might have tried to PM or email about it and never got a response (maybe the letter didn't go through, the artist switched accounts, the artist left the internet, etc.) so they assumed no news was good news. And a lot assume that if the artist doesn't say, "hey, my art isn't for use on livejournal! Don't make icons from it!" then it means she's okay with it.

I don't have a problem with usage, and neither do my friends who draw fanart themselves. You would be surprised at the number of artists on Deviantart who don't mind iconing ("don't claim it as your own" =/= "don't use it for graphics"). Of course there are those out there who are dislike it too, but I don't think there are as many as some people think there is. If the artist herself tells you, on a journal entry or personally or whatever, then take it down. If not, it's free game until she makes an announcement. You're not breaking the law if there's no law to break, you see.

Re: 6

(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Better luck next time? :P

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(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
o rly? ♥

(Everybody thinks their art sucks. And as they say, one man's junk is another's treasure. My stupid drawing was almost a year old when it was iconned and I had better pictures of the character posted in the same gallery... but they still chose that one for some reason. x( I guess in their eyes it must have been more worthy. Who knows, maybe somebody'll think that way of yours too.

I didn't ask for credit and they gave me none, but right then I didn't care. I still don't, really, but for more reasons than just one. I don't want that picture attached to my name. xD It's baaaad.)

Re: 6

(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
And I forgot to mention, I hope 24 replies to your comment 'cause I want to know where those brushes came from too. x)
karel: (Default)

Re: 6

[personal profile] karel 2007-08-21 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Ya rly. ♥

(No, I mean really. If I was just playing modest, I would have given out a link. ^^' If I found an icon with any of mine on it, I think I'd break down and have a fangasm. Especially if they made it look pretty. :)

XD Same here. I would want nobody to know it was mine. Just let them think it's another bit from 4chan or something.

Though, admittedly, I'm pretty anal about tracking down sources for anything I use in icons. ^^' I just can't fit most of the URLs in the "comment" section, so I have a post for them.)

[identity profile] ali-wildgoose.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
24) FANON SHIPPING IS A-OK BY ME <3

(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
It's not really fair of you to try and pull a blanket statement like that, especially considering you don't like mpreg and therefore have no way of knowing why people like it.

Granted, I'm sure the things you mentioned are the case for some people. Some people probably just get kicks out of it and laugh over it or whatever, or so I assume from the few fics I've seen for it. (I actually haven't seen a single mpreg fanfiction done well, but that's another story.)

Maybe this isn't common, but for me to like mpreg, it has to be a certain way. And it definitely is not to fulfill the happy kittens, sunshine and picket fence ideal. If people really just wanted it for that, they would write about a het couple that is settled and plans to have the kid to start a family. Maybe some people turn slash pairings into that, but... I really don't think it's realistic to be that way. (Unless it takes place in a society where homosexuality isn't something of a taboo, I guess.)

But anyway, I'm getting off-topic. The main thing that intrigues me about mpreg is actually all the problems it causes. After all, it's mpreg. It's obviously not normal, and so when people portray it as such it doesn't really do much for me. What I like is how it causes so many issues. Trauma, the male involved questioning his identity and being fucking scared out of his mind because it isn't supposed to be this way. Sometimes it even leads to mild insanity. So yeah, for me it usually is an accidental, fucked-up thing and the characters just have to make it work whether they want to or not. I guess enjoying that sort of dark, screwed-up stuff happening to characters is also strange, but I tend to lose interest otherwise.

Also, assbabies are a big no no for me. It honestly grosses me out. It either has to happen via genderbending of some sort or the guy having both sets of reproductive organs or something like that. Obviously only some fandoms would work for this and I don't try to make it happen in more realistic ones.

To be honest, mpreg usually comes into the picture when I get bored because the characters are too happy (in the one-on-one RPs I do with a certain friend - I never write and publicly post mpreg fic or do it in group RPs) and so I need to shake things up a bit. Maybe I'm not a "normal" mpreg fan, but with something that's so off-the-wall to start with, it takes a special situation to make it likable for me.

And it's a shame that I have to post this anonymously in the first place, but hardly anyone knows I even like mpreg, and I wonder what they would think of me if they did. It's a little upsetting, because I've always felt that people should be able to like what they like, but... Seems like mpreg is one of those things that most everyone in all fandoms hate on. I just wanted to clear some things up, since you seemed to have a lot of misconceptions, or you were at least making a lot of incorrect assumptions.
emileesaurus: (robot/dr. smith: i thought you said romo)

Re: 17

[personal profile] emileesaurus 2007-08-21 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Just because one character has a pussy and one has a dick, doesn't mean they'd have a better chance at hooking up over two guys or two girls. Gender doesn't matter when it comes love, it's all about how the characters interact with each other.

Man, don't I wish. While that may be the case in real life, it's sadly not the case in most media. Or maybe I'm just not in the right fandoms. At least in my experience, it's a lot more likely for writers to hook up a random het couple than for the most subtexty same-sex pairing to actually be validated.

(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Different anon from the person below, but:

If you're going to badmouth mpreg by comparing it to another weird fetish, please make it something that's similar and not off-the-wall like vore, please? I love mpreg, but vore grosses me the fuck out, and it saddens me if you lump all weird fetishes together to make a point like that. :/

(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Clarification: I don't have an issue with people liking vore, it just really, really isn't my thing.

(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Blah. Blah blah BLAH! BLAH. Blah blah blah. BLAAHHHHHHHH.

poster of 9

(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Hee hee~<3

I barely use it, really... just 'cause some of my favorite artists have it as sketch blogs and I like looking at their art...

Ooh~! Fan-fictions! I'd love read that, sometime, if you'd let me! :>

(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
lulz it doesn't have to be buttbabies geez XD you like an idea enough, you get creative with it

[identity profile] mcruthless.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
14. YES
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[personal profile] blackhearts 2007-08-21 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
MAGIC BABIES?????

whatevs, they're still buttbabies, unless now the mpreggers are using swallowed semen as the catalyst for guys doing biologically impossible things.

(Anonymous) 2007-08-21 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
6) Someone used my fanart as an icon once, and my first reaction was "OH WOW AWESOME :D"

Second reaction was "...but she didn't even ask me. :|" I wasn't upset (if she asked, I would've said yes anyawys), but I was miffed when I saw that she put "don't steal" in the comments for it. I mean...wtf. It's kinda hypocritical, you know?

[identity profile] aviy.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
lol. do you feel better now that you got that off your chest?

Re: 17

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
In my fandom it can go anyway. Yuri doesn't happen as much as I'd like, but a guy has just as much chance ending up with another guy as he does a girl.

[identity profile] countesszephyr.livejournal.com 2007-08-21 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
:D I totally agree too. I mean, I write fanfiction sometimes...and even when it's yaoi, I write it because I like the dynamics between the two characters, and their personalities/interaction/pasts and things are interesting to me. Not because they're hawt gheys ;o; hah.

I skimmed through your convo with [livejournal.com profile] icthyopook and you just seem totally awesome, haha 8D

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