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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-16 04:17 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I get that. I pretty much only like pining in first time stories; once the people involved are on the same page and definitely headed towards a happy ending, I have little to no interest in seeing it play out.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my God, ME TOO.

I thought I was weird.

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-02-16 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a pretty common sentiment. Especially since most of these kind of relationships are obviously consisting of people who are generally written as emotionally stunted. It seems hard to imagine them in a regular relationship.

It's also weird to see characters you've known for awhile make transitions. They rarely happen as smoothly and realistically as they do in real life, so it feels like a sudden change. The wild adventurer and spunky princess suddenly want to settle down and have babies? It all happens so suddenly.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends on the story, but I often feel the same. I'm usually aware of when I'm reading something because it's interesting vs only reading it because of the UST.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2013-02-16 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, to an extent. Some stories get boring once the UST is resolved if the UST is the plot. Good authors can keep up the narrative drama and suspense once the UST is resolved.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not alone, OP. A lot of people, myself included, are mostly interested in first time and getting together fics. Established relationships are often a lot less interesting, unless there's some continued conflict or misunderstanding for it to be anything other than happy fluff.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-16 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to wonder - is the distaste just due to the writing, or does the idea in and of itself bore you?

I ask because I know a lot of authors (as sort of touched on above) tend to fall into a boring pattern with established couples, and the lack of interest stems from the lack of an interesting story. But I've also read some good stories where the establishment of a relationship actually makes adventures even more interesting because there are fewer boundaries and taboos between the two. Less namby-pamby "should I/shouldn't I," more "LET'S DO THIS." I mean, UST is awesome and adorable, but for me, the payoff is when the result is worth the emotional tug-of-war.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
In my case it's probably because so many authors cannot for the life of them keep an established couple interesting without falling into out of character dumbass drama. Once the UST ends it's time for "oh god here comes the miscommunication" or "oh god, here comes the unwarranted and never before hinted at insecurity" or "oh god here comes a third party to be sexy and cause shenanigans".

I've seen one fic off the top of my head pull it off. It was Star Trek and pretty much just had Kirk and McCoy keep on going on their normal space adventures only now they share a room. It was pretty awesome.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Would you mind linking to that Kirk/McCoy fic?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
http://nikki4noo.livejournal.com/128659.html

It's pretty much a retelling of Space Seed in the new movie-verse.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah, I consider that to be a problem with the author's writing skills rather than the establishment itself. I don't enjoy internal relationship drama precisely because it's formulaic, often out of character, and absolutely boring. And it's everywhere! Like, even in mainstream media, you apparently can't have a couple without bringing in Couple Problems, regardless of whether they make sense or not. It's like you can't have a happy, healthy couple just being awesome and a couple - and that really makes me sad :/ I mean, I write couples because I like them and the idea of them being together, and presumably that's other people's motivation, too, so why would you write them with the intention of making their relationship stressful and miserable? There are so many other things you can do to a couple to show the strength of their bond that don't involve making the audience think they're ultimately incompatible!

(Anonymous) 2013-02-18 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
+1 that this is a mainstream media problem. It always boggles how people think the problem must be a 'Moonlighting' curse - that once the UST is over, fans will stop caring about the couple. So the cure must be to introduce all sorts of OTHER tension! (House and Cuddy, for a recent irritating-as-fuck example.)
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[personal profile] caecilia 2013-02-16 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-02-17 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I tend to feel the same way, not only as a reader but a writer.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Not an unusual feeling at all. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TrueLoveIsBoring

(I am ever so sorry for linking to TV Tropes!)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
No you're not. :P
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[personal profile] mfirefly10 2013-02-17 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think it really comes down to the writing (and the chemistry, if we're talking movies/television). There are some couples who get even more interesting once they've gotten together and some that completely lose the spark they had in their UST days. Likewise some writers excel at writing established couples while others are only really good at the UST part.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, that's why so many show get awful after they get a couple together. It's hard to get it right.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
I think this is pretty normal, as some people have already said. I stopped watching Bones entirely since Booth/Brennan got together (though I'm not sure if I just got sick of it in general) and my interest in Psych has really waned ever since Shules became official.
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-02-17 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Same, all the time. It's so frustrating

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, though part of the problem for me is that authors often start using pet names and start making their characters do all sorts of OOC things.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
i think this is a pretty common opinion to have.
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[identity profile] sensualcoco.livejournal.com 2013-02-17 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
I understand. It depends on the characters for me. Some characters I think would make an awesome battle couple or something so I don't mind reading about the relationship too.
But most often I just enjoy the anticipation. Unfortunately in fanfic I find things can get pretty OOC for some characters once they get established into a relationship. Though to be fair, there's a reason a lot of TV shows wait until the end to put the couple together... because they don't know how to write it and keep it interesting either.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
OP this is so common that television writers and producers are very wary of resolving UST. Shows have lost viewers over it. The most famous being Moonlighting where it ruined the show.

I think it's why some shows dance around it too much, like The X Files.

It ruined Frasier for me when Daphne and Niles got together, it shouldn't have happened. Maris was one of the best characters ever. Especially as we never saw her.