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⌈ Secret Post #2239 ⌋

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[Elementary]

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[Pokemon]

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[Noah, Power Rangers MegaForce]

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[Mass Effect]

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[Resident Evil]

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[Medaka Box]

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[Shameless]

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[Star Trek 2009]

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[Dreamwork's Sinbad, Avengers, American Gods, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Batman, Gunnerkrigg Court, Grim Adventures, Trickster's Choice/Queen]

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[American Dad]

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[Laurell K. Hamilton]

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[my neighbour totoro]

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[Medaka Box]

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[Downton Abbey]

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[The Red Panda, Black Jack Justice]

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It's Downton Abbey. Wait a few episodes.

Seriously, I don't get how the members in my church think DA is all fluffy and sweetness and light. I watch it and think WHAT SHOW ARE THEY WATCHING TELL ME WHAT? The character in the OP had a creepy stalkerish admirer who insisted she marry him on his deathbed, the main couple in the series had a love-hate-love relationship, and THEN HE DIED, the countess had a miscarriage because she slipped on a bar of soap, the aforementioned dead love interest was paralyzed in the war but He Got Better, the family's youngest child DIED IN CHILDBIRTH, the count gambled away both his AND his wife's fortunes on the stock market, and as of the last episode I saw, most of their tenants are going to get the boot, thanks to the Victorian recession. Then there is the middle sister, who fell for an old geezer (TV old, not really old) and was jilted at the altar because she was too young for him, and her current love interest allegedly has a wife in a lunatics' workhouse and knowing this soap opera, that's probably a load of horse puckey and his wife is perfectly sound of mind and he's just stringing her along.

The downstairs staff fear no better (though in the actual house IRL the staff were UPSTAIRS the anachronisms on this show drive me bonkers) the head housekeeper has a breast cancer scare, the cook gets glaucoma but She Gets Better, the countess' personal maid is the one who set up the miscarriage soap, one of the butlers has suddenly gone creepy on the newly hired butler, to the point of assaulting him (but instead of sacking the creeptastic butler, they keep him on --- THE ANACHRONISMS ARE BREEDING) one of the maids got knocked up by a soldier when the house became a hospital during WWI, and she ended up a prostitute, and has had to give up her son (which is the only period bit they got right -- except it gets better and she gets to see her kid) and don't get me started on the alcoholic butler...

TL;DR: The only redeeming value this show has is Maggie Smith. And the house.

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The downstairs staff fare* ahahaha

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And one of the maids who ends up being the oldest sister's maid, falls in love with the count's butler but he's married to a shrew and the shrew kills herself to set up the butler for murder (I am so not kidding) and he gets sent up, but his death sentence is commuted and he eventually gets out of jail free and as of rn they are happy as can be which on this show means they are both doomed for a Fate Worse Than Death (again).

I also forgot the love interest of the main couple (the oldest daughter's husband) originally intended to marry someone else, but they killed the fiancee dead with the Spanish Flu but she came back via Ouija Board (can't emphasize enough that members OF MY CHURCH watch this) so she didn't get better because she wasn't pretty enough or lordly enough to be "the queen of the county" or something. Plus the anachronisms, did I mention the anachronisms, watch even a middling documentary on the same era and it's enough to make you tear your hair out.

I'm sorry F!S I have so much unresolved frustration with this show, and no one to vent to. Just wait a while, OP: I guarantee you the character in your secret is in for a terrible time. This show beats up its characters (quite literally -- the creeptastic butler I mentioned above ended up get gay-bashed on the last episode aired on PBS) something awful.

But, on the plus side, there's Maggie Smith snarking her way ridiculously through the 1900s, and the house is amaaaaaazing to look at, if only to take your mind off the ridiculous writing.

dude...just stop watching the show if it causes you that much frustration. it's basically a soap opera (albeit much more well done and acted than anything like it), and you really either like that or you don't. and if your frustration is more about the members of your church misunderstanding something? well, you're a part of the church, so you're obviously used to getting over that.

Thomas did not get gay-bashed in the finale. Some guys were going to beat up the new hire and Thomas jumped into save him. And then he got beat up. It had nothing to do with his sexuality. (I will not contest 'creeptastic' though, omg Thomas what the hell is wrong with you.)

I disagree with a few of your summations (e.g. Mary and Matthew never had a love-hate-love relationship...also I'm pretty sure the staff do live upstairs? but mostly we see the downstairs kitchen and servants' hall, and in any event, "downstairs" is more metaphorical than anything and is not a term that originated with DA), but really I want to point out that they aren't experiencing "a Victorian recession." It's the '20s in the show now, fer cryin' out loud! And it started in 1912, which was not part of the Victorian period, either.

/pet peeve

He's not a Count, he's an Earl.

The location of the staff is not an anachronism. Downton Abbey is not Highclere Castle- think of it as another actor playing a role. Just because they used to do it that way there doesn't mean they have to do exactly that on tv. The vast majority of families with servants (both upper and middle class) had their staff downstairs; and even if they didn't, that's just what they CALLED their staff's space. It's more of a class/role distinction than a physical one, although it's usually a physical one too.

Also footman ≠ valet ≠ butler.

Victorian recession? I had no idea this show was so wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey.

It's a soap opera. So what? Well, I dislike it, but I fail to see what the problem with what you said...

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