[ SECRET POST #2268 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2268 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 055 secrets from Secret Submission Post #324.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

02. http://i.imgur.com/CyL2oEC.png

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say it's not only SPN that has a kinkshaming problem. I've seen it crop up in Doctor Who, sadly. And I bet it exists in other fandoms as well because newer fen are quick to judge before backbuttoning out of something they don't understand or don't want to read. Also, they don't understand the history of "choose not to warn."

[(Anonymous)]

The history of "choose not warn" is people with an understanding of reality being shamed into using a "choose not to warn" tag by SJWs. I choose not to choose not to warn. Life has "use at your own risk" as its pre-set level.

[insanenoodlyguy]

A-fucking-men.

[badass_tiger]

What is the history f 'chose not toward'? I never knew there was some kind of backstory to it.

[(Anonymous)]

I just always assumed it was there to basically say, "there is something that should maybe be warned for, but warning for it would ruin the impact/significance of it." TBH, whatever it actually means, it still tends to make me not inclined to read it at all. Yeah, published literature doesn't come with warnings, but there's a certain level at which shit is just unpublishable, and I can generally handle that. Fanfic and self-published works have no such filters, and there is some shit that I just do not want to read about.

[(Anonymous)]

Once you start insisting on tagging this is how it always ends, tag wars. Hey well at least now, you're it.

[(Anonymous)]

Off-topic tagging etiquette question.

I follow somebody who alternately reblogs epic amounts of fandom I love and fandom about which I couldn't care less. She never tags. I don't want to unfollow because of Fandom A, but endlessly scrolling past Fandom B is getting on my tits. Given that we never interact beyond likes and reblogging, is there a polite way to ask her to consider tagging her stuff, or is the realistic option here to just grin and scroll endlessly on?

[(Anonymous)]

Keep scrolling or fuck off, it is your choice. You don't get to be the arbiter of how someone else enjoys doing things.

[(Anonymous)]

just ask. if you are really afraid, ask anon. everyone is free to do what they want on their own accounts, but in the case of tumblr, i think tagging is just common courtesy. like holding a door open for a person irl. people who act like it's SUCH a pain to tag certain things when their followers ask nicely are dicks, and in that case deserve to be unfollowed tbh.

i always want my followers to be happy and comfortable reading my page. i encourage ppl to talk to me if there is something they want tagged. it's nothing difficult for me. and in return i hope for the same treatment.

[(Anonymous)]

You can send them an ask to see if they'd be willing to tag their stuff but don't pull some woe is me act if they don't want to. Their tumblr is still theirs to decide how to run or not, and if it doesn't suit you, unfollow it.

[kaijinscendre]

Just...tag your stuff on Tumblr. I don't care if you don't think [kink of choice] is that bad, TAG IT.

Your posts should at least include kink/warning tag and fandom. If you have the time also tag for character or pairing.

[(Anonymous)]

Or not. Tagging is entirely voluntary and if you don't want to tag. Don't. Its not a crime or sin.

[agirlnamedtruth]

Is this a tumblr thing?

I don't really use tumblr but I'm not sure how tagging would really make that much of a difference unless it was for something like tumblr savior where it blocks out content with a certain tag. I mean, surely by the time you get to the tags at the bottom of the post, you've already seen/read whatever it was? Or you've read something that makes you want to click the link.

[(Anonymous)]

It's mostly for savior, I think - and because, if it's not tagged, it will still get through a lot of the time which can get...very unpleasant if someone posts something like gyro/gore/obvious rape untagged on your dash [and yes, I've had that happen].

Plus, iirc, there might be a way to do a type of 'read more' thing where tags might be helpful? I just don't know how often that's used.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm in the "tag that shit whatever it is" camp. I don't think tagging something as slash = thinking slash is something that needs to be "warned" for, I think it = helping people who want it to find it.

I really do fucking wish people would tag their underage stuff, though. That can cause actual legal troubles as well as potentially freaking people out, so it would be nice if it was standard practice for it to be tagged and/or behind a cut. Not doing so makes navigating certain fandoms a minefield >:(

[(Anonymous)]

See, this is my thought process too. What if I specifically want to search for some specific kink or plot type? If I do, and you didn't tag your stuff, doesn't matter how fucking awesome it is cause I won't be finding it to read it. Tagging, to me, always seemed like a way to put more information out there to help readers decide if your stuff is what they want or not. No shaming involved.

But then, I'm a librarian. I like helping people find the things they want.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is just a problem in fandom in general.

God forbid you ask people politely to tag a kink or whatever and then get it shoved down your throat that you're kinkshaming them. It's fucking ridiculous. Or hell, asking people to tag anything is an instant insult if it happens to be something that other people like.

People like things. People dislike things. Stop making it a fucking personal attack.

[riddian]

My first thought on reading this secret, despite the picture used, was "You're talking about Transformers fandom, aren't you?" We had a blowup about the exact same subject last week. ...all the other TF secrets in this post are not helping either. |D

Anyway, whichever fandom it is, it isn't the only one.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Sam's face described my reaction to the whole Overlord fiasco better than any robot.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeeeah, I'm firmly of the opinion of 'tag that shit, yo'. It's not that I judge, or care really, what someone else's kinks are - just that sometimes not tagging means running across stuff that *really* hits certain problems for me [because panic attacks aren't fun.]

That said, I've been lucky enough that the one time I asked someone to tag something, they were totally cool with it. So -shrugs-

Warning: contains cuddles and sap.

[anonymouslyyours]

I get the whole 'real life doesn't have warnings!'~ but it's kind of a dumb argument. It would be nice if life did and fandom at its very core functions as a community of people who do things for each other they don't do with people in real life.

So maybe we can't all always eat cake and shit rainbows and get off but every once in a while can't we do a little something that takes minimal effort to give someone else a bit of a safe space they can't find in real life? What's so bad about wanting to make the world a little less awful?



/this has nothing to do with the fact I love organizing, tagging, and categorizing things. And if you're one of the buttmunches abusing people's good will please stop you're not helping. Though I will still warn and tag for the non-whiners to benefit.

Re: Warning: contains cuddles and sap.

[(Anonymous)]

Very well-put post. Though I will add that from the readers' side of things, they need to not leap straight to attacking someone for not tagging uncommon triggers in the first place. (Thinking of the dustup here a couple of weeks ago about how dare there be a secret with a bare pregnant stomach on it.)

If someone doesn't tag for the big/obvious stuff like violence, underage, rape, etc: Hi, I noticed you don't tag for these things - would you consider doing so? It can be problematic for people to stumble on them unexpectedly.

If the trigger is more rare: Hi, I follow you and think you're great, but you sometimes include fics about X - I know it's not a common trigger, but this is an issue for me and I would really appreciate a tag.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus, is fandom still whining about this shit?

I haven't read the comments so I don't know if anyone else has said this but...

...I look for tags. I look for things by using tags. If someone chooses not to tag, then I won't read their fic. So...good on them that they choose not to tag. Saves me a lot of trouble on sorting out which authors to follow.

We both win!

[eaten_by_bears]

That feel. I know it.