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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, well theworld would like you a lot more if you just got over your sexual hangups. Americans are such prudes.

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you assume they're american?

[ill_omened]

Far be it for me to defend 'muricans.

But I doubt they're American, that place has pretty solid defence of free speech. It's Australia, Canada, etc that are making possessing drawing a criminal offence.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup, Canadian here, and I was coming here to say that. Doesn't matter whether it's hand-drawn art, doesn't matter whether it's fictional kids, you can get hit with a charge of child porn.

So it's more our legal hang-ups than our sexual hang-ups.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that shit is sometimes dubious in America but generally not illegal by itself. So OP probably isn't American, or if they are they're just ignorant of the legal situation.

[tyger66]

"Americans are such prudes"

Really? REALLY? I get so tired of "American" stereotypes. The USA is as large as entire continents. There is no one trait that is shared by all Americans, just like there is no one trait that is shared by all Europeans. Also, porny art of underage characters is illegal in some countries, which means that even having it present on your dash could result in legal action, depending on who wants to prosecute.

Basically what I'm saying is shut the hell up and stop being an asshole.

[ill_omened]

Comparing a country to a continent?

Come on now, they were being silly, but you shouldn't respond in kind.

[tyger66]

Regionally, cultural differences in the USA can be massive. Going from Southern Alabama to New York City is really like being in a different country.

[(Anonymous)]

Same insular arrogance and stupidity, different accent to express it with.

[ill_omened]

It's not.

Like yes you have huge regional differences, welcome to every country ever?

But it doesn't compare to say the difference between say a person in France and Bosnia. Not even close. And there's a reason the only people you'll ever see making this argument are american.

[(Anonymous)]

Just like regional differences in a European country can be. Smaller doesn't mean less diverse.

(but yeah, obvious troll, don't worry about it)

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god, you went there. Didn't we just have a huge wankfest about this same exact topic? This will not end well.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, wow, the range of official languages, historical backgrounds, regional art forms and folkloric traditions must be immense.

[(Anonymous)]

Well the US is as large as Australia, and like Australia is filled with horrible poisonous critters. I believe Americans call them Republicans.

[(Anonymous)]

Oooohhh, snap!

[(Anonymous)]

Please don't take such an obvious bait. It's embarrassing to us all.

[tyger66]

Sorry, Sometimes I just can't help but feed the trolls. It's why I'm not allowed in wildlife parks anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who spent a lot of time traveling in North America and Europe (and lives in neither) I'll just say this-

There is a large difference between people of different area of the US, bigger than many people who're only familiar with America through media may not fully realize. Accents differ, looks differ, food differ, even cultures-

but

the difference in Europe is still more prominent. It's not just the languages, either, though I think it's a big factor. Consider their histories. The united states have a pretty solid union for, at least, the last 100 years (I think even longer, but I'm not as big on American history). Europe just united it's East and West measly 25 years ago. And the language barrier? Like I said, it's a huge factor. A Russian and a Pole who both speak only their country's respectable main tongue may be able to somehow understand each other, but a Turk and a Swede? A French and a Croatian? While, I'm pretty sure that a man from Florida and a guy from Washington would be able to communicate just fine.

The US is big. There's a big difference between people from one end to the other there. But comparing it to Europe? Nope, nope, nope...

[(Anonymous)]

What part of "breaking the law" do you not understand? and lol at not liking shota being a "sexual hangup".

[(Anonymous)]

Depends on what country they're living in. Browsing shota fanart would be an offense where I live. Porn of anything that looks like a child, even an adult who looks like they're 16 is considered child porn. Probably carrying nude photos of your adult, young looking partner could get you into trouble. Though I doubt you'd be convicted.

[(Anonymous)]

The law? What law? Italian law states loli and shota are legal, therefore no matter one's moral stand about it they're not breaking any law here in my country.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

"Virtual child pornography is punished with up to a third of the sanctions for real life child pornography. Virtual images are defined as: images, or part of images, produced and modified with software from actual photos of minors, where the quality makes it so that fake situations are manipulated and appear as realistic. Therefore, lolicon, shotacon, and cartoon pornography in general are not included."

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#cite_note-71

"In un'intervista, il vicequestore aggiunto Elvira D'Amato del Centro Nazionale per il contrasto alla pedofilia in rete ha dichiarato: «In Italia il cartone animato, così come il fumetto o la riproduzione 3D, non sono contemplati dagli articoli del Codice Penale, che si occupano in questo caso di perseguire i delitti contro la persona, proprio perché i soggetti raffigurati non sono persone reali. Viceversa [...] un fotomontaggio che raffigurasse un minore, nonostante non ritragga una situazione verificatasi nella realtà, sarebbe incriminabile. [...] La legge non può punire l'intenzione di reato. Per quanto il contenuto di un fumetto sia di carattere palesemente pedopornografico, non è perseguibile penalmente al pari di un fumetto che raffiguri scene di omicidio o qualsiasi altra forma di violenza.»"

Summary for the italian-impaired: loli and shota are drawings and not real people, therefore they're treated the same way other fictional depictions such as those of murder and violence are - i.e. they're not indictable by law. And you know what? Putting my own feelings on loli and shota aside, I think it's a goddamn good law because separating fiction from reality is what sensible people do. It's a slippery slope otherwise and the people from other countries here have shown that.

[(Anonymous)]

troll

[(Anonymous)]

When did not liking characters who look like under aged children being overly sexualized make anyone a "prude?"

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure being squicked by the sexualization of underage characters isn't limited to Americans or prudes, fyi.

[greenvelvetcake]

Hoo boy.