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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-31 03:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2280 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2280 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Assuming this is about Dean/Cas, because duh.

My biggest issue with this is that the writers (and producers and lighting guys and dude who makes the coffee) are all on Twitter now, and they egg these poor people on.

They make comments about upcoming episodes containing shit that is going to make the Destiel fans SO happy, they retweet Destiel stuff, it makes it look like they're all fervent supporters too and there's a really good chance it's going to be canon any day now, which makes these young tumblr Destiel fans get their hopes up.

I don't blame them for getting over invested, because they're being mislead. It's fucked up. The next level of queerbaiting, I guess.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. It's only proper to blame the real queerbaiters in this case. I'm including what's his face, the actor, in this assessment.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I kinda feel bad for 'what's his face', because the one time he admitted all they were ever gonna do was play 'lip service' to it, he was ~corrected~ by the fans and felt the need to tweet that he was wrong to use that term. Plus, I don't really blame him for playing it up. He's probably just trying to keep a steady paycheck, and he figured out pretty quickly how to tap into the fannish mind. I'd play up the gay too, if the amount I worked was influenced by it. Ain't awesome, but we all gotta pay our bills.

The writers et al on Twitter, they piss me off because there's no reason for them to respond to the Destiel bullshit at all. These are clearly teenagers who are tweeting them with shit like 'Destiel is wonderful gay representation and it should be canon OMG', and they're responding with 'LOL, WE LOVE DESTIEL STAY TUNED', when they know damn well it's not gonna happen.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, I don't excuse the actor at all. Six in one hand, half a doz. in the other and all that jazz.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Do you also find fault with the leads when they play up the gay stuff for the fans, or is it just Misha?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
He's the only one I've heard about (not in the fandom). But sure, whatever.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't follow this wank but didn't Misha use the term incorrectly? As in... he wasn't aware what the term meant until someone told him later.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I have no idea what the wank was but I read the actual account of what happened and queerbaiting it was not. The originator of this thread didn't seem very well informed so I was trying not to get involved...

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly no. If a writer says the next episode is going to be exciting, they assume its because of destiel. If they say the next ep is heartbreaking, they assume its because of destiel. If the set producer says check the background for clues they only see hints for bisexual Dean.

They view the show as merely a backdrop for the love story for Dean and Cas. Everything and everyone, in their eyes, is meant to be a parallel or a clue about their ship. And its not necessarily the wrong interpretation, but the fits they throw when they don't get their way is more than alarming.

The ones causing the most damage are probably all the adult meta writers assuring all their young followers that its going to be canon.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
All of this. Also, when the writers/actors/whatever say that an episode is going to be exciting for fans, they generally mean that there are going to be scenes that they think the fans will enjoy. I follow almost everyone involved with the show save the directors and writers on twitter, and they generally say the show is going to be exciting, but not specifically for Destiel fans. And honestly, even if they did say they think Destiel fans will enjoy an upcoming episode, why in the world would people automatically assume that means they're going to be kissing/touching/fucking/professing their undying love?

There was wank in the TW fandom along these lines when Jeff Davis said that Sterek fans were going to like an episode in Season 2 and some of the more overzealous fans started freaking out and assuming that it meant Derek and Stiles would kiss, when all he meant was that they had a lot of screen time and some good scenes together. And then some people were seriously pissed off because omg, he ~lied to them~. I know Jeff Davis has a problem with putting his foot in his mouth, but this was one of the instances where it was not the case and the fans read way, way too much into things and then wanted to cry about injustice and queerbaiting afterwards.