[ SECRET POST #2291 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2291 ⌋

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Comments

[wldcatsprstr_14]

And how many people flip out and call religious people delusional for those beliefs? If you can understand why people would make fun of religious people, then surely you can understand why people would be making fun of the OP.

[(Anonymous)]

Have you been here for the past couple of days? Making fun of religion around here gets you compared to Stalin. So no, I really don't see why the mockery of OP here is near-unanimous in that same environment.

[(Anonymous)]

You are just like Stalin! You'd suit a nice luxurious mustache too.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

As far as I've seen, saying you're religious on the internet (or better yet, saying you're Christian) makes you the butt of all kinds of jokes and the target of all kinds of 'imaginary friend in the sky' jokes.

But aside from that, I think the reason is because the notion of otherkin is so unusually to people. It sounds like something that spawned from the Twilight craze so of course people on F!S are gonna rip it apart. I believe in people having close ties to animal spirits as well and the idea of believing that you have a wolf-self inhabiting your body still makes me go o.O

[darael]

"Spawned from the Twilight craze"?!

The first otherkin of which we have definite records were around in the seventies, before the internet.

Of course, expecting random people on the internet to know this would be unreasonable, so I guess the point stands.

[ungoddly]

I think they're confusing "otherkin" with "wolfkin"? Not that that makes any more sense, since lycanthropy is one of the oldest recorded forms of anything like otherkin, isn't it?

Plus, "blame it on Twilight" seems to be the go-to for a lot of things. I once saw a comment saying that the sexualising of vampires was because of Twilight, and I was like "..."

[darael]

One of. The records I was talking about were the letters of the Silver Elves, but given that the lycanthrope (later more generically therian) community developed independently from the otherkin one (At one point the distinction was whether the associated animal was known to actually exist; those lines have blurred quite a lot in more recent years) it's quite hard to tell.

[ungoddly]

I figured that was the case. Th'art blatantly a better source on 'kin/therian stuff than me, though, since about 90% of what I know about their history comes via thee. (And the other 10% via psychology books, tumblr, and historical phenomenology)

[(Anonymous)]

No, claiming that only religion is reponsible for war and destruction gets you a reminder from history.

[(Anonymous)]

Except a lot of these people who are making fun of otherkin would NOT make fun of other religious people.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. I fail to see how "relates to wolves" is any more crazy than "thinks people are made of dirt and rib bones."

[(Anonymous)]

You don't have minerals or rib bones?

[(Anonymous)]

Hmmm, someone needs a course of metaphor
http://blip.tv/sf-debris-opinionated-reviews/it-s-not-easy-being-god-6465265

[(Anonymous)]

In fact, many people need a course in metaphor -- including all the Christians who believe the Genesis creation story to be literally true. They exist in frightening numbers.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

It's very upsetting that whenever a conversation like this arises, people automatically bring up how Christians belief in the literal Creation story and take literal interpretations of everything in the Bible.

People *really* need to realize that those people do not speak for all Christians and probably not even a third of all Christians. They're just the loudest.

[(Anonymous)]

I understand that not all Christians are Biblical literalists, and I get not wanting to be lumped in with them.

But the ones who take Genesis literally DO exist, and they ARE "real Christians" too, and it is valid to bring them up when talking about the absurd things that some religious people believe -- especially in the context of asking why we make fun of some people for believing absurd things, but not others.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

LOL because that's exactly what all religious people think and not just the crazy fundamentalist Christians...

[(Anonymous)]

But "the crazy fundamentalists" don't get made fun of here, and otherkin do. That's the point. Why one and not the other?

[(Anonymous)]

Because the crazy fundamentalists aren't so gosh darn pathetically funny.

And if a Fundie did make a Bibel sekret saying they were Jezebel's diaphragm, they'd get just as mocked.

[tyger66]

because ALL otherkin are "crazy fundamentalists" in this metaphor. Furries are the semi-acceptable-level-of-crazy christians, otherkin are the completely-unnacceptable-level-of-crazy people who spend their time messing around with poisonous snakes or teaching their children to do the same.

[(Anonymous)]

Not all of us do.

A lot of us spend our days in the exact same way as other people.

I'm human, 100%, my DNA is human, my body is human, but I feel more comfortable with the mental picture of myself as a wolf some of the time. My 'soul' is different. It's not like it's a huge earth shattering thing. It doesn't make me crazy, it doesn't make me 'unacceptable' with my friends. It just gives me a different perspective, different interests, and different feelings.

-A Wolf Therian

[(Anonymous)]

If you only pick and choose from the Bible and do not believe that all of its words are true, you are not a real Christian.
If you just believe in a higher being/god/what have you, then you're "just" a deist.
Practice what you preach.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

Lol no. Just, no.

Reading the Bible as a metaphor is not the same as cafeteria line religion.

[logicbutton]

Do I have to believe in the apocrypha, too? What if I'm not sure about the veracity of Q? Hypothetically, of course!

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly my point, thank you.