[ SECRET POST #2314 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2314 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 096 secrets from Secret Submission Post #331.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Are there really so many creators who ban fanfic?
Makes me feel uncomfortable to hear that more people than a few crazy authors do this shit :/

[blunderbuss]

There's not MANY, comparatively, but there's a few. Quite a few of them are just gestures to disassociate themselves from smut, especially if their product is marketed towards kids.

However, there ARE some SUPER crazy authors who loathe the very notion of fanfic because how very dare you presume that you can improve on their glorious work you plebeian.

na

[(Anonymous)]

"Warner Bros. briefly tried to get rid of Harry Potter Slash Fic. This went nowhere."

I think that, and the fact that there's nothing beside Anne Rice and Laurell K. Hamilton's sections but their names are probably my favorite things about that page.

Re: na

[(Anonymous)]

Warner Bros. briefly tried to get rid of Harry Potter Slash Fic

Haha how would they even go about doing this? That's like trying to stop a tsunami using a tarp and sticks.

Re: na

[ex_paola492]

Warner Bros. briefly tried to get rid of Harry Potter Slash Fic. This went nowhere.

Petty humans! Believing they can get rid of the Potter slash!

Re: na

[queerwolf]

There's actually a whole website for LKH-based fanfic. Even though I read her books, I love that people are writing it despite her wishes. I just hope she never finds out about it.

[badass_tiger]

'[George R. R. Martin]'s major objection [to fanfiction] is, apparently, that fan fiction is bad practice for an aspiring writer, the equivalent of doing paint-by-numbers for an aspiring artist.'

W o w. Respect level dropped.

[(Anonymous)]

hm i wonder if there's a source for that?

i think i remember a quote where he was making some weird fucking metaphor about dragon hoards but i hadn't heard that, but yeah wow

[(Anonymous)]

he should have a chat with the people running the show adaptation tbh

[elephantinegrace]

Most of those authors you can write off, but I'm looking at Anne McCaffrey and Marion Zimmer Bradley and I feel a little bit scared.

[(Anonymous)]

Anne McCaffrey also has iffy notions about gay people and MZB supported a pedophile.

[(Anonymous)]

MZB supported a pedophile

wut

[(Anonymous)]

Walter Breen was MZB's husband (www.sff.net/people/stephen.goldin/mzb/timeline.html), he was charged with molestation and was accused (but not charged) of having sex with even younger

[(Anonymous)]

well that's disgusting beyond belief

Uh, I do mention rape in this comment, so read at your own risk

[elephantinegrace]

I'm not saying they're saints. (Also, I didn't know any of that and stopped reading Anne McCaffrey after the whole "rape makes people gay" debacle.) I'm saying that if someone decided that something I wrote in my actual canon sounds like something they wrote in their fanfic, I'd probably flip a few tables, too.

Re: Uh, I do mention rape in this comment, so read at your own risk

[(Anonymous)]

http://jimhines.livejournal.com/507999.html

aside from all the ambiguity, i thought this summed up the issue with MZB really well, at least

since the problem mostly was that she was so involved with the fanfiction herself, and apparently did really try to (non-maliciously) buy the rights to the fan's story

maybe something more has some to light, but i dunno

[(Anonymous)]

As I understand it, MZB used to publish anthologies that featured fan-fiction set in her world. Unfortunately, somebody decided she stole her idea and there was some legal issues.

Also, TVTropes is not exactly a bastion of well researched information.

[kluify]

I just read the Charlaine Harris page, and I'm confused about her objections (though I don't think she shouldn't have a right to object. It's not going to change anything, but that doesn't mean she shouldn't be able to disapprove).

Anyway, this is from her site:

Q. Can I post my cool story about Sookie on this site?

A. No, and I’ll tell you why. No fanfic can appear on this website. Not only does it make me feel strange to have other people use my characters, but there are legal issues to consider.

Here’s an example:

Enthusiastic Reader: Wouldn’t it be great if Sookie adopted Hunter?

Would be okay.

TooEnthusiasticReader: Wouldn’t it be great if Hunter came to Sookie’s house and said, “Aunt Sookie, can I play in your attic?” And then Sookie let him, and Hunter came down and said, “Did you know there’s a ghost in your attic?”

This is NOT okay.

Am I the only person who has no idea what she's trying to say here?

[badass_tiger]

I think she's sayin that she thinks there's a line? Like its okay to come up with cool head canons but don't be too elaborate about it?

Idk that doesn't make sense either really.

[kluify]

On rereading I worked out that I think she's just saying what would be appropriate for people to post on her site, as in what 'crosses the line' over into fanfic. Still don't know why one is okay and the other definitively isn't though. I mean, I can guess, but I still think the onus is on her to actually explain her objections properly.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes that's just weird and vague as hell.

One is simple speculation and the other is actually adding to the world and putting words into a character's mouth, but there are better ways to show the difference between writing an actual narrative and speculation.

Good grief.

[(Anonymous)]

This is one of those times I wish these sites had a "like" button. Or something similar.

[(Anonymous)]

I would bet a lot of money it's a legal thing. Because if the scenario is specific rather than generic, and she later uses a similar storyline, the person who posted it on her site can claim that she stole it from them & try and make a ton of money in court. I don't know about this specific instance but that's usually the impetus behind this kind of thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Then why doesn't she just say that for legal reasons she cannot read any fan fiction posted on any site, and will return all manuscripts unread if mailed to her, and will delete all proposed manuscripts unread if emailed?